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 Post subject: Lower Sabie to KMIA - pros/cons for Kruger gate vs. Phabeni?
Unread postPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 3:44 am 
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We have a flight back to JNB around 4 pm. I've done some reading about these routes and am tempted to exit via the Phabeni gate, but am a little worried about the extra time on a park road and having animal delays. I do plan to go to Hazyview and take the R40.

Opinions please on how much time we should allow for both routes?

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 Post subject: Re: Lower Sabie to KMIA - pros/cons for Kruger gate vs. Phab
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gigib :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: perimeter tent in Lower Sabie.. lucky you.

I do not see Phabeni Gate exit as a problem. Once you are out of the gate, it is only about 10/15 minutes to Hazyview. You should have plenty of time on your hands.

It is quite a long time since I have taken the Kruger exit, but I seem to remember that distance wise there was not that much difference.

Lower Sabie to Kruger is 53 kms, but you then have to add another 40 kms to Hazyview. Phabeni is 91 kms, but Hazyview is only about 10-15 kms away. It will take 4-5 hours to reach Phabeni at leisurely pace.

I know which one I would take and its not Kruger.

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 Post subject: Re: Lower Sabie to KMIA - pros/cons for Kruger gate vs. Phab
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If you feel you are pushed for time, you could always exit at Croc Bridge. Is shorter to there from Lower Sabie than either Phabeni or Kruger Gates.

And then it's the N4 towards Jhb, which is a good road.


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 Post subject: Re: Lower Sabie to KMIA - pros/cons for Kruger gate vs. Phab
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Good idea, Yoda. :thumbs_up: Malelane is also a possibility.

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 Post subject: Re: Lower Sabie to KMIA - pros/cons for Kruger gate vs. Phab
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Except for the road works in the gorge on the N4 and the Stop/go's which can be up to a 90 minute delay at times!

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Leave early, exit at Phabeni - why - more time in Kruger.

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 Post subject: Re: Lower Sabie to KMIA - pros/cons for Kruger gate vs. Phab
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I would also opt for Phabeni - it is only 10 mins to Hazyview, then a few minutes through the town itself and then the road down to White River and then onto the airport is good and well signposted.

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 Post subject: Re: Lower Sabie to KMIA - pros/cons for Kruger gate vs. Phab
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Hello!

I'll also need to go from Lower Sabie to KMIA, except that flight is at 13 so I'll need to be there by 11. I'm tempted to use Croc Bridge gate... it'll be late May 2015, I hope roadworks are finished by that time...?!? ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Lower Sabie to KMIA - pros/cons for Kruger gate vs. Phab
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arthas, you might have to wait until May to see. Those roads are pretty tricky and we are going into rainy season.

If you give yourself 4 hours to Phabeni, leaving the minute the gates open, you should make it in time.

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 Post subject: Re: Lower Sabie to KMIA - pros/cons for Kruger gate vs. Phab
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Hello!

Does it take 4 hours to Phabeni?!? It's just 91 Kms,,.. even at an average of 30 Km/h (which seems slow enough compared to 50 Km/h limit, but I assume I can find folks stopping to watch game) it should take 3 hours... Even the official SANParks PDF says 3h14 including stops for game viewing (which I might well skip to avoid missing the flight...). ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Lower Sabie to KMIA - pros/cons for Kruger gate vs. Phab
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Elsa wrote:
Except for the road works in the gorge on the N4 and the Stop/go's which can be up to a 90 minute delay at times!

Didn't think of that. :roll:

Will they be completed by next year?

arthas wrote:
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I'll also need to go from Lower Sabie to KMIA, except that flight is at 13 so I'll need to be there by 11. I'm tempted to use Croc Bridge gate... it'll be late May 2015, I hope roadworks are finished by that time...?!? ;)


For a domestic flight, an hour is more than enough.
Even 1 1/2 hours including car hire drop off.


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 Post subject: Re: Lower Sabie to KMIA - pros/cons for Kruger gate vs. Phab
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yoda wrote:
Elsa wrote:
Except for the road works in the gorge on the N4 and the Stop/go's which can be up to a 90 minute delay at times!

Didn't think of that. :roll: Will they be completed by next year?


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The road will also receive a new asphalt surface. The total cost of this project is R287-million and the duration of the contract is expected to run for 20 months. Road works started at the end of April 2013."
Quoted from a reliable industry resource.


but who knows if they are running to schedule?

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 Post subject: Re: Lower Sabie to KMIA - pros/cons for Kruger gate vs. Phab
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I would opt for the Phabeni gate. The road from Kruger gate to Hazyview passes townships and there almost certainly delays because of cattle, traffic (taxis) and pedestrians. And you get that extra hour or two in the park. :lol:


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