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 Post subject: Re: Best route Joburg to Letaba camp
Unread postPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:57 am 
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Hi Littlejohn

I would suggest Jhb lydenberg origstad phalaborwa route. I have done this route and the Orpen route via Hoedspruit(basically the same route) numerous times. Yes there are potholes 20km's beofre Lydenburg, in Lydenburg and about 20kms out of Lydenburg heading towards Origstad.

As you said you travel at 110km so now that you know there are potholes if you take it easy you will be fine. Other that that the road is great and very scenic, nothing like the feeling of going up the Abel Erasmus pass through the tunnel and seeing the Lowveld below you.

Have a safe Journey :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: Best route Joburg to Letaba camp
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How long will it take, roughly on the abovementioned route if i left at 05h00 from joburg?


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 Post subject: Re: Best route Joburg to Letaba camp
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6 hours with a good stop.

The problem is that these re regional roads. If Belfast and Lydenburg municipalities cant even keep their roads in the town center up to scratch there is no way they are going to fix these roads unfortunately.

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 Post subject: Re: Best route Joburg to Letaba camp
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My sister who lives in Tzaneen told me today that the road from Polokwane, via Magoebaskloof through Tzaneen
is being repaired in the mountain pass, which is a bit of a nightmare at the moment. The Haenertsburg/StGeorges valley road only has 1 stop/go, but long queues of trucks, which adds quite a bit of driving time. We travelled from Jhb, via Dullstroom/Lydenburg/Ohrigstad a month ago, the road, apart from the potholes as stated by the other 'mites, is ok. It should take about 6 hours from Jhb with 1/2hour stop along the way.

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 Post subject: Re: N4 to Nelspruit
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hi PietSkiet

I have also driven on Schoemanskloof with the stop and goes. We weren't held up to long 20minutes at max, how long were you held up?
I would much rather be delayed a bit on Schoemanskloof than drive on some of the potholed roads towards Lydenburg...

It isnt the worst place to stop and enjoy the scenery either :mrgreen:

Which ever way you go, have a safe trip and enjoy it!

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 Post subject: Re: Best route Joburg to Letaba camp
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Just to let you all know....returned via Hoedspruit, Orighstad, Lydenburg and dullies and apart from a few earth filled pot holes just before and after Lydenburg, the road was great. Most of the pot holed areas were signposted. I will do that road again no problem.


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 Post subject: Re: Driving (best route) to/from Kruger
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Pietermaritzburg to Punda Maria

Hello everyone,
I will be driving from Pietermaritzburg to Punda Maria in May next year and would like to know what the best route would be, the quickest route. I want to do it in one go so I will leave at about 3am and then either go:

N3 to Jhb, N1 to Makhado via Thohoyandou to Punda Maria gate
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Newcastle, Ermelo, Lydenburg, Ohrigstad, Giyani

The TomTom route planner shows that both of these routes are approx. 11hrs but in reality I know that this may be different.

Thank you.

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 Post subject: GOLDEN GATE TO KRUGER - BEST ROUTE?
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Hallo All,

In 2 weeks I will happily be on my honeymoon :gflower: :k

As a part of it we will spend time in Golden Gate (Highlands Retreat as well as Brandwag Hotel). From there we will travel to Skukuza, stopping for a overnight in Chrissiesmeer, Mpumalanga.

I have 2 questions that I please need help with:

1. Is the best route from Gauteng to GGHNP over Villiers - Reitz - Clarens?
2. More importantly, best suggested route from GGHNP to Malelane Gate (via Chrissiesmeer). My proposed route is Harrismith - Warden - Vrede - Standerton - Ermelo - Chrissiesmeer - Badplaas - Barberton - Malelane

Any input will be greatly appreciated.

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 Post subject: Re: GOLDEN GATE TO KRUGER - BEST ROUTE?
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2. More importantly, best suggested route from GGHNP to Malelane Gate (via Chrissiesmeer). My proposed route is Harrismith - Warden - Vrede - Standerton - Ermelo - Chrissiesmeer - Badplaas - Barberton - Malelane


Avoid the R38 between Badplaas to Barberton, very very bad road, more gravel and potholes than tar. Cattle etc on the road aswell. Many townships, didnt feel safe at all. Would rather go this route: Harrismith - Warden - Vrede - Standerton - Ermelo - Chrissiesmeer - Breyton - Carolina - Machadodorp - Waterval-Boven - Nelspruit - Malelane.

I used that road in December with my 4x4, never again......


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 Post subject: Re: GOLDEN GATE TO KRUGER - BEST ROUTE?
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Stephan groen,

Highlands Retreat is a good choice to start you honeymoon. Wish you all the luck with the wedding plans and a wonderful wedding.

My route to GGNP normally runs through Harrismith, then south to Phuthaditjhaba entering the park on the east. My first connection to the N3 is at Warden and therefore I prefer to continue driving south. The shortest route will be through Bethlehem and Clarens taking the R26, but I am not sure the condition of those roads will be the same as the N3.

Last time I've visited Golden Gate was in April and during that time there was roadworks along the Sterkfontein- Olivierhoekpas section. Best to check TomTom - AA for road advice.

Traveling to Chrissiesmeer you can follow your suggested route, but be careful of potholes about 10 km before Standerton. This section was completed a few years back, while the Free state side was very bad, but they finally completed the Free state section and now Mpumalanga road becomes bad again.

After Standerton most obvious route is Morgenzon, but I have not travelled that road and some-one else might help. A bit of a detour will be Secunda - Bethal- Ermelo on a good road.

I've avoided Badplaas since 2012 due to road works after Carolina. You can travel to Machadodorp R36 or Belfast R33 from Carolina. By avoiding Barberton you now need to travel on the N4 passed Nelspruit where there are road works before and after Nelspruit (there is another thread on this route. Why don't you enter at Phabeni gate? Won't recommend the road to Numbi gate, but rather the R40 to Hazyview.

Hope this helps a lot and enjoy your trip. :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: GOLDEN GATE TO KRUGER - BEST ROUTE?
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Did part of this route in reverse in September last year. Travelled from Croc Bridge to Glen Reenen. Can echo the comments about the Christiana-Badplaas section of road. However, I must add that the section between Carolina and Ermelo was pretty bad as well, not really potholed, but very uneven and rutted in sections.
From GGHP I would take the route via Phutadithjaba to Harrismith, then Warden-Vrede-Standerton-Ermelo. When I did that route in September of 2012, the section between the R103 (which you take from Warden) and Vrede was under (re)construction; this was virtually 20 km of gravel detour. Hopefully that is no longer the case. If you are still forced to travel through Vrede rather than around, be aware of the "pothole" in the main street. It is actually a donga. Equally, the worst parts of the rest of the route are actually the roads through the towns.

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 Post subject: Re: Best route pretoria to berg n dal
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Hi wachinda

If you see you are going to be late you can also call the gate ahead of time and arrange for late entry (fee applicable), they do this up until 21H00 and will then escort you to Berg-en-Dal.

The below info is found here:

http://www.sanparks.org/parks/kruger/get_there/default.php

Late entry escorts (at a fee) are available at the following gates for the camp in brackets only. This is only available until 21:00. Escorts depart every half hour until this time:
Paul Kruger (Skukuza)
Numbi (Pretoriuskop)
Malelane (Berg-en-Dal and Malelane)
Crocodile Bridge gate (Crocodile Bridge Camp)
Punda Maria gate (Punda Maria Camp)
Orpen gate (Orpen Camp)
No late admission at Phabeni, Phalaborwa and Pafuri

Gate Security will phone camp duty phone when there are guests and transport is arranged. If guests advise in advance, then trips can be better planned. Fee is currently R150,00 per vehicle.



Gate contact numbers can be found here

http://www.sanparks.org/parks/kruger/get_there/gates.php


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 Post subject: Best road to Phabeni Gate
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Which will be the better road to travel to Phabeni Gate form Nelspruit - R40 or R538? :hmz:


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 Post subject: Re: Best road to Phabeni Gate
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Definitely the R40. One via Numbi is very badly pot-holed

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 Post subject: Re: Best road to Phabeni Gate
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Last month we travelled to Phabeni and used the road via Hazyview (R40). The road is in very good condition, with a short "stop & go" just after the turn-off to Numbi.


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