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 Post subject: Re: January 2013 Rains/Floods in Kruger
Unread postPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:11 pm 
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Carol g wrote:
DB, I hope that the pic from Raymond of Croc Bridge that you posted, is from a previous flood, because it looks like the bridge is just about gone. :(

Carol, if you look at This pic taken last year during the floods you can see it looks very similar and it survived then with barely any damage so lets hope it does the same this time round.

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 Post subject: Re: January 2013 Rains/Floods in Kruger
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Ifubesi wrote:
What is happening now is exactly what scientists predicted would happen to the North-Eastern corner of SA due to climate change: Increasing frequency of extreme droughts and floods. The scary thing is that this was expected to happen over a couple of decades. Seems as though the climate is changing quicker than expected.

Average time lapse between large floods in the lowveld: +-80 years;
Recent history: 3 large floods in 13 years :(


Although I do agree, and support science Ifubesi, I have a bit of a giggle at the scientists. I can remember when they talked of "El Nino" and when that did not happen they called it "El Nina". :lol: In the old days, they called it "El Droogte" and "El Moerse reen" :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: January 2013 Rains/Floods in Kruger
Unread postPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:23 pm 
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Thanks again to Jaco V for these pics just in of Letaba, the high water bridge and the river:

According to Jaco, the river has subsided, the bridge has been cleared and is open again, and there is even choc milkshake available ;)

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 Post subject: Re: January 2013 Rains/Floods in Kruger
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A post Joep made on his own page. He does not mention who made the photos, so I can't give due.

Shingwedzi huts in bygone times:
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And now this, but first his text:
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Today is a particularly historic day in the history of Shingwedzi Camp in that it was completely engulfed by floodwater of the swollen Shingwedzi River. It is great that many lives were saved today when employees were rescued from the lofts of these historic buildings and others out of trees. Well done to those heros and all others involved! I hope that these old huts will be able to be fully restored.

And they will need restoring:

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When I asked him if the flooding is worse than last year he replied this:
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Duco, it was at the restaurant on 24 February 2000 and has never gone into the camp before.

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 Post subject: Re: January 2013 Rains/Floods in Kruger
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The power in the rivers has to be seen to be believed! We have abandoned the rest of our trip and returned to Malelane area. Seems we missed the worst of everything......slipped through the main road Punda to Shingwedzi on the day it was open again, and got ahead of the closures etc further south too. The Letaba bridge looked close to overflowing when we crossed it......and it did next day. Will try to post some photos when connection and time allow.

I still vividly remember last year at Lower Sabie......

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 Post subject: Re: January 2013 Rains/Floods in Kruger
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I believe a lot of the gossip and drama discussion of camp destruction etc is over-rated. Most of the water is flowing down existing natural water courses and just a natural phenomenon which has happened frequently over the last 100 years of the park's existence.

Some of the pictures look really dramatic because we are not used to these sights. The turbulence and debris washing downstream is certainly spectacular, but completely natural. Even those animals that are foolish enough not to seek higher ground die a natural death: this is part of nature's evolutionary process of survival and selection of the fittest, strongest, and most adaptable genes.

Most of the water washing into the camps is slow flowing, or just seeping, and this might damage timber floors doors or walls, but most structures are constructed solidly and high enough to withstand bad weather. (Letaba suffered extensive flooding last year up to a metre deep, and was functional again very shortly afterwards)

Even most of the bridges and low-level crossings will survive the water-flow..in the case of the lighter bridges the approach and depart-slopes get washed away and they take time to pack new wire-and-rock 'casons' and resurface. but essentially the water flows over the structures. On the bigger bridges like Letaba H1-6 they are robust and only the lightly-fitted armco and handrails get bent off by big logs washed down in the flow: the engineered structures are solid.

Low-level crossings like the exit from Tamboti are probably not damaged at all...it was only deep slow-flowing water and unstable road-surface that forced vehicles to be left in camp and made evacuation necessary.

Two traffic oficials have been reported missing in the Komati River bordering the park, but these were unrelated to KNP activities. I have been searching the web extensively and haven't found any other factual evidence of deaths (unless someone else can add a link to facts on this).

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 Post subject: Re: January 2013 Rains/Floods in Kruger
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View to the left from Letaba restaurant, this afternoon.

A week ago it was an almost dry riverbed, and on Thursday it was starting to fill up. :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: January 2013 Rains/Floods in Kruger
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Just heard from most reliable source that Sirheni dam wall actually broke, which of course added to the force of the water. One can imagine the volume when the Shingwedzi, Phongolo and Pugwane all came together. Once again the power and awesome indifference of the natural system!


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Riverrat wrote:
flowing down existing natural water courses and just a natural phenomenon which has happened frequently over the last 100 years of the park's existence.
True, but in the case of the Luvuvhu the Limpopo actually prevents it from flowing. When the former comes down in flood, it forms a barrier as effectiive as a dam wall at the confluence. The Luvuvhu then stops flowing, and the water instead spreads sideways out into the floodplains on either bank. That's why the flooding can be so extensive from what is normally a fairly minor and marginally perennial river.

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 Post subject: Re: January 2013 Rains/Floods in Kruger
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Does anyone have more photos of the affected camps and regions? I am especially worried about the damage to the riverine forests along the Luvuvu, Shingwedzi and Mhpongolo rivers and of course the Shingwedzi camp.

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The name of the Kanniedood dam will probably be changed to Kannie-meer-water-vat-nie dam.

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Nicolette wrote:
I was in Kruger in December and noticed the railings on the bridge over the Sabie/H12 haven't been repaired yet following last years floods.

Do Kruger spend money on this or on fighting poaching. I believe there are limited funds and now with these floods I am sure they will have to decide what is the most important thing to do
Its fairly complicated. They have budgets and insurance. And I am not totally sure who is responsible for the bridges and/or roads; if it is the park itself, or the province. Will try and find out.

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Ronel E wrote:
Are there any photos available of Shingwedzi camping site ?


Look one page back, there is a picture of the camp.

what is Joep website address please?

As far as I know he does not have a website address :D Or you can say it is http://www.sanparks.org. Those were from facebook.

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 Post subject: Re: January 2013 Rains/Floods in Kruger
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Holy hell.. if you don't want to call that damage then I don't know what you are smoking..

To think we would have done a Big Birding weekend there from this Thursday.. :|


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