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 Post subject: Re: shocking state of the gravel roads
Unread postPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:37 am 
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Leaping Lizards wrote:
Hi all

I apologies in advance for the amount of questions to follow:

Is deflating tires on a sedan a good idea?
Does it do any damage to the tires?
Does it lessen or increase chances of a puncture?
If deflating is a good idea, what, tire pressure is recommended?

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Deflating is a good idea if you are not running on low profile tires, on low profiles you might damage the rims if you deflate as there is no rubber to take the movement of the corrugations.

It will not do any damage to the tyre if you drive at Kruger speeds. Make sure the tires are back to the recommended pressures before leaving the park and driving on the highways. At speed above (60km/h for example) deflated tires will have a similar effect to worn shocks, it is dangerous and not recommended at all.

If you deflate to much the sidewalls of the tire can be exposed to sharp rocks and might be cut but then you have to deflate it a lot. I would say below 1.5bar.

The pressures you should deflate to depends on the shape and construction of the tyre, sidewall thickness etc. and the weight of the vehicle, try and take out 0.2bar for a start. I drive on 1.6 bar in the park and when leaving at 2.5 bar, but that is on 4x4 tyres with a thick sidewall constructed to run on deflated pressures

Hope it helps.

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 Post subject: Re: shocking state of the gravel roads
Unread postPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:51 am 
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My experience is that if I drop the pressure in my 4x4 Hilux's tyres to 1bar in front and 1,5 at the back, it helps a lot with keeping dentures and bras in place. I also like to drive my normal 30kph.

Something the park should consider is to tow a bed of old tyres over the roads. It can be done with a small tractor or even a bakkie. That is a much cheaper operation and can be done more often to keep the corrugations smoother.


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 Post subject: Re: shocking state of the gravel roads
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 Post subject: Re: shocking state of the gravel roads
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Thanks for the help.

Its a pity we could only afford 4 days in Kruger this year. We have more time available next year and hope to do a more solid visit.

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 Post subject: Re: shocking state of the gravel roads
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You know , we have visited Kruger many times over the past 40 ++ years , and frankly , IMHO , the gravel roads today , are not really worse than they were in those far-off days :naughty: There were always good parts , and there were always some roads that seemed more corrugated than others , and really , we have just accepted it as part of the experience :doh:
In fact , nowadays it is more of a hazard to drive on the badly deteriorated and pot-holed tarred roads outside the park :doh:

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 Post subject: Re: shocking state of the gravel roads
Unread postPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:33 pm 
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Yes, okie and Philip1, the tar roads outside the KNP are the ones to watch out for! The potholes are what will mess up your car. The "tar" roads where I live are almost as bad as a dirt road!


Dirt roads are exactly that - dirt roads. They can only be graded after rain, and not too often, as that destroys the surface (from a lecture by SANParks staff). I have only found patches on a few roads to be uncomfortable. Guests do have the option of travelling on the tar roads if they find the dirt roads too rough.

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 Post subject: Re: shocking state of the gravel roads
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We have just got back from a wonderful trip and mostly stuck to the dirt roads...trying to avoid as much traffic as possible. They were, in my opinion, not bad at all. Some a little worse for wear but then these roads had signs warning about bad corrugations and stating that the roads could not be maintained due to lack of rain. I feel if you go to the bush...expect the bush.

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 Post subject: Re: shocking state of the gravel roads
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Currently in Kruger , and after having just spent 11 nights here ( with 4 to go ) , must admit that I have never seen the gravel roads so badly deteriorated , and certainly many of them badly need to be graded :big_eyes:

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 Post subject: Re: shocking state of the gravel roads
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In my opinion the state of the gravel roads are good.
Far better than any of the other Parks I visit :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: shocking state of the gravel roads
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Hmmmmm..... Maybe you haven't driven the S52 , S144 , S100 and S39 lately :hmz:

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 Post subject: Re: shocking state of the gravel roads
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Thanks with the help with the tires. The roads were not that bad at all. All in All, the dirt roads are in much better nick than they were last year or the year before.

I was always of the opinion, if the roads get rough, who cares, you on holiday, drop your speed and enjoy the view. In fact, in most cases it almost enhances the feel of being relaxed and at peace.

However, the S36 between the S145 and Muzandzeni was virtually impossible. We had to do that stretch at around 10kms an hour, and under. I am not a Kruger oldie, only been visiting since 2007, however, this year, this stretch was the worst I have ever seen.

Once again, most roads were better than previous years and another wonderful Kruger visit has come and gone. We’ll inspect if things have improved on this road in February :dance:

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