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 Post subject: Phabeni Gate
Unread postPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 7:31 am 
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Has anyone entered early morning at Phabeni gate recently ? I had the honour on Saturday morning, and if road rage in Gauteng is starting to become a problem, I can assure you that 6 o’clock on a weekend morning at Phabeni gate is a ticking time bomb.

Firstly: this is not another attack on OSV’s (although they is are not innocent in this), this a rather a question about the preferential treatment they receive at the gate.

Phabeni gate has become extremely popular, and there was easy 50 cars waiting just before 6. I arrived around 5:20am and was number 20 in line. When the gate opened at 6 all the OSV’s in the line behind me shot into the right lane and drove all the way through the gate, and bypassed the security handing out forms and searching cars. When I questioned security about this I was told that they are allowed to do that.

My problems are as follows:
1. Why do they not have to stand in line with the rest of us ? Why do we need to get up at 4am to be in line nice and early, and they can pitch up any time, and drive straight through ?
2. Why are OSV’s not searched for alcohol ? Is there some sort of arrangement with these companies that they don’t need to be searched ?

I would really appreciate an official reply on this. The chaos that is happening at Phabeni in the mornings is going to turn ugly. Mark my words….


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 Post subject: Re: Phabeni Gate
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Hmmmmmm this doesn't sound right neither fair. :hmz:

I can just see this turning into something very ugly, luckily we haven't had such a experience before and hopefully will not.

I honestly believe in first come first served. :rtm:

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 Post subject: Re: Phabeni Gate
Unread postPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:17 am 
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The query has been forwarded to SANParks PR.

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 Post subject: Re: Phabeni Gate
Unread postPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:22 am 
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Elsa wrote:
The query has been forwarded to SANParks PR.


Thanks Elsa, I agree with jb72, it is a road rage waiting to happen.

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 Post subject: Re: Phabeni Gate
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Elsa wrote:
The query has been forwarded to SANParks PR.


Thanks Elsa - much appreciated.


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 Post subject: Re: Phabeni Gate
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Meandering Mouse wrote:
Elsa wrote:
The query has been forwarded to SANParks PR.


Thanks Elsa, I agree with jb72, it is a road rage waiting to happen.


There was a lot of shouting and fist pumping happening - not the way to start a day in the park....

The worst is that there was even a normal SUV with a local lodge sticker on the door that by-passed the whole queue, and got waved through by security. It's just not fair :evil:


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 Post subject: Re: Phabeni Gate
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Never mind just searching for alcohol, what about firearms and poaching equipment.

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 Post subject: Re: Phabeni Gate
Unread postPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 2:52 pm 
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I do hope Sanparks will address this matter as soon as possible. Such bad management practices at an entry gate of a world class National Park should not be allowed. Those paying guests who have to stand back and remain in the back of the queue and witness preferential treatment to some important/hand selected guests will understandably become angry and aggrieved!!

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 Post subject: Re: Phabeni Gate
Unread postPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 2:54 pm 
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jb72 It is a pitty your day in the park started like that

We saw the same preferential treatment happening at Croc Bridge when we entered there early 10 July 2014
We all sat at the gate bright and early waiting to go in, 5min before the gate open at least 4 local lodge vehicles pull up and where let through. Just like that. Never mind the 40 odd vehicles in the queue
One older guy got out his vehicle to question the security at the gate………but nothing came of it
5min later we were let through........ :naughty:

Thnak you Elsa for forwarding this

gmlsmit I have never seen those vehicles being searched, ever :hmz:

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 Post subject: Re: Phabeni Gate
Unread postPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 2:57 pm 
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I can only imagine the gate. If you take an early morning drive down the S1 during the year other than in Nov/Dec/Jan you will undoubtably have sightings swarmed and overtaken by countless OSV's. Is there not a quota for the amount of OSV's allowed into one gate? :hmz:

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 Post subject: Re: Phabeni Gate
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I thought there was Spargish.

I have usually found Numbi the quietest and I have seldom had to queue.

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 Post subject: Re: Phabeni Gate
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Meandering Mouse wrote:
I have usually found Numbi the quietest and I have seldom had to queue.


The SanParks website warns against using Numbi Gate as quoted below. Since we're staying in Pretoriouskop, it's the closest gate for us to use.

"Due to poor road conditions and repairs taking place on the R538 (between White River, Numbi Gate and Hazyview), guests are advised to avoid this road and Numbi Gate. The R40 (leading directly from White River to Hazyview) is recommended as it has recently been repaired and guests can access or exit the Park via the Phabeni or Kruger gates."

Is Numbi okay to use to get into the park?


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 Post subject: Re: Phabeni Gate
Unread postPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:48 pm 
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Warm welcome to the forum Duncanblizzard! :clap:

As the advisory says, its not advisable to use this road currently due to the bad conditions and occasional unrest in the area but its really up to you.
If you do enter at Phabeni and take the S3 & then S7 dirt road a few kms inside Phabeni gate its only 26 kms to P/kop so won't take you too long to get there.

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 Post subject: Re: Phabeni Gate
Unread postPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 12:56 pm 
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Nothing yet ?

I'm going back this weekend, and need to know if I must pack my baseball bat.....


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 Post subject: Re: Phabeni Gate
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jb72 wrote:
Nothing yet ?

I'm going back this weekend, and need to know if I must pack my baseball bat.....


:funny:

I would have expected a reply by now. :hmz:

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