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 Post subject: Tsetse fly
Unread postPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:23 pm 
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Hi there!

Today we went for our Malaria prevention pills for our visit in September. The lady who advised us told us not to drive slowly with our windows open, because tsetse flies are attracted by the dust that is generated by driving over (dirt) roads.
As you all know, we have to drive slowly in the park. But by keeping our windows down we would miss out on so many potential sightings. So what to do?

Did anybody have bad experiences with tsetse flies in Kruger? Or knows someone who has?

The lady who advised us was pretty serious about this. So we thought we just ask you guys! :)

Thanks for all your replies!!

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Ralph and Lenny


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 Post subject: Re: Tsetse fly
Unread postPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:27 pm 
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Welcome to the forums!

The tsetse fly you don't have to worry about at all, they do not occur in Kruger.
This is where you do find them:
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As you can see that is well above Kruger.

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 Post subject: Re: Tsetse fly
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Thanks for the information DuQues! She got us quite worried! So we don't know where her information came from... :huh:
We thought she was pretty well informed about the other subjects.
Thanks again!!


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 Post subject: Re: Tsetse fly
Unread postPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:54 pm 
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She was obviously correct in her knowledge of Tsetse flies, but not very good at Geography!! :whistle: :whistle:

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 Post subject: Re: Tsetse fly
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It's a mistake I've heard before in The Netherlands....

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 Post subject: Re: Tsetse fly
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If it was the GGD, they are still making the same mistakes and still use the same info that they tried to give me 9 years ago. :wall: :wall: :slap: :slap: :huh: :huh:


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 Post subject: Re: Tsetse fly
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As I said, I think that they need a lesson in Geography........like where exactly South Africa is!!! :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: Tsetse fly
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I've read in many places that the Tsetse fly used to occur in the Kruger region. How did it die out, and is it possible for it to return?


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 Post subject: Re: Tsetse fly
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Well the boundries of Animal are always difficult to draw. Of course will be a slight possibility that they occur, but the probabaility is very low. please keep that in mind. Tse tse flights occur in Moc and that is not far away from Kruger to say they will not occur there is in my oppinion not quite correckt. But plaese don´t worry about them.... .

The reasons why animals die out and come is very komplex, changes in climate enviromental changes can be a couse. A lift e.g. in a car or plane can also be possible. A couple of years ago I heard a Story that Malaria flights were taken from RSA to GErmany via SAA. possible is everyhing.

One thing you need to know, the stiches of a tsetse Fly are very painfull and they only can infeckt you if the full amount of Venom gets inside you. So to be infected is not that easy. I have informed myself 2006 when I went to Tanzania - Serengeti and Ngorongoro Crater.

The most people die not becaiuse of tse tse the most people die because of malaria and they def. occur in Kruger. Keep that in mind.

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 Post subject: Re: Tsetse fly
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The wildlife decimation in the area started by hunting was completed by rinderpest, a virulent disease of cattle and wildlife that originated in Asia and swept through eastern and southern Africa between 1896 and 1898, killing about 95 percent of the cattle and related antelope species, such as Buffalo, in the areas affected by the disease. Ironically, with the rinderpest epidemic and demise of the cattle and wildlife, the Tsetse fly was also eradicated in the Lowveld. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Tsetse fly
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The only place where I have encountered Tsetse flies was in Kafue National Park in Zambia. They stay in forest and not savanna areas. They are not attracted by the dust from a gravel road but they love dark moving objects. So I found out when on our way to a camp in Kafue. As soon as we entered the forested area, a swarm of tsetses appeared. We were travelling at about 30km/h but the tsetses kept up with us, looking for a gap to enter the vehicle. Some managed to get in and bit us. The one that I killed left a blood mark the size of a 50 cent coin. The folks at the gates are always very reluctant to get up when one approaches the gate because as soon as they start to move, the tsetses are upon them.

According to wildlife experts, the tsetse flies are an ally of wildlife in that area because they keep cattle farmers out.

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Rooies wrote:
According to wildlife experts, the tsetse flies are an ally of wildlife in that area because they keep cattle farmers out.


Of course man upsets the balance - nature will bite back .

Return the tsetse fly , remove fancy "big corporation enriching" devices , amongst the many , medicine & genetic modification , and restore the human population balance before its too late .

Or is it too late ?

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 Post subject: Re: Tsetse fly
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@ Rooiies

I have done different experiences. I me Tse Tse flies in Serengeti. During that time the whole Area was dry und dusty. But they did occur. If you compare the habitat of serengeti or Selous in comparision to Kruger you will find out that the habitat is similar.

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Malealea wrote:
Well the boundries of Animal are always difficult to draw. Of course will be a slight possibility that they occur, but the probabaility is very low. please keep that in mind. Tse tse flights occur in Moc and that is not far away from Kruger to say they will not occur there is in my oppinion not quite correckt. But plaese don´t worry about them.... .


Tsestse Flies occur no where near Kruger. Like the eradication of the vector mosquito that spread Malaria in Europe a long time ago, so has the Tsetse been wiped out in most of Southern Africa. Mozambique borders Kruger yes, but it is a huge country so you cant say that means they can easily come back, they occur a good 700- 1000km from Kruger.
Some of the closest areas you will find them to KNP is in the Zambezi River Valley and from there on the highway you will see the Tsetse control zone.

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A bit of trivia. One of the ways they used to wipe out tsetses is by using a mechanical bull, similar to those at rodeos. It is a plastic, dark coloured bull with slits on the side and rocked via batteries. The tsetses would enter the side of the bull through the slits but then they cannot figure out how to get out again. The wardens would then kill them with insecticides.

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