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 Post subject: Re: Animal charges – does your vehicle play a role?
Unread postPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 2:32 pm 
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I read somewhere that elephants also don’t like the sound and rumble of diesel engines as it mimics the sounds they emit to talk to other elephants in the area. These sounds they emit we are not able to hear but elephants can feel through their feet.



Hmmm.... I do not quite agree with it that diesel engines upset ellies . In fact IMHO it is exactly the other way round . A slowly ticking over diesel engine could actually have a calming effect , whereas a racing petrol engine is quite disconcerting ; it becomes much hotter than a diesel , and therefore it needs more cooling .
And I have seen it happen where we are quietly sitting relatively close to ellies ( in our diesel Landy :) ) , when another vehicle , with a petrol engine , where its fan suddenly switches on , and all the ellies suddenly stop , listen , search around with their trunks , before proceeding again :tongue: .

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Maybe the sound that some cars make provoke the Elephants, especially those one’s in musth ... :hmz:

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If anyone is prepared to fund me staying in Kruger for 6 months, I would be prepared to do the research and report back.

Requirements:
6 vehicles of different colour,
6 vehicles of different size, some petrol, others diesel.
6 months accom in various camps.
6 months fuel, food & drink.
1 young, pretty assistant who can write, photograph & cook!

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Bush Baptist wrote:
If anyone is prepared to fund me staying in Kruger for 6 months, I would be prepared to do the research and report back.

Requirements:
6 vehicles of different colour,
6 vehicles of different size, some petrol, others diesel.
6 months accom in various camps.
6 months fuel, food & drink.
1 young, pretty assistant who can write, photograph & cook!


:lol: :clap: Nice one Bush Baptist :wink:

Think you should start of your research in the far North of the park :tongue:

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:lol: BB.

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BB I will do the driving while you make important notes. :mrgreen:

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:lol: :clap: Nice one Bush Baptist :wink:

Think you should start of your research in the far North of the park :tongue:


Might get distracted by the birds there, andwe will start with the tough vehicles....

Deal Lepardfan. :thumbs_up: But the only person I want driving when I see an ele in musth is me, unless you like to view them with binos across the river!

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BB here is a photo for your ‘research’ file :mrgreen:
White Petrol Hyundai H-1……………..clearly not liked by Mr Grumpy……….. :twisted:
The visitors stopped and attempted to take a photo, next moment they got his attention alright… :tongue:
(and then we had to idle behind the bloke for 2km on the S120 towards the H3) :roll:

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Bush Baptist, you'll also need 6 different drivers to compare - I volunteer!


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We will be visiting Kruger in a couple of weeks for the first time.
This happens to be one of my few areas of concern (elephant charges).
After reading this thread and other sites for advice on how to handle encounters with elephants.
I am now confused :hmz: .
Many of the posts refer to the noise(s) that a car makes, as a possible contributing factor.
And I have read advisories to turn off the engine.

I must admit, the idea of turning off the engine is "very scary". :big_eyes:
Especially with the possibility of facing an agitated ellie.
Which could be agitated by someone else's actions and not mine.

So, it it best to shut off the engine?


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Not based on reading any scientific research and just my personal opinion, but I would not shut the vehicle's engine off, Ctm7943.
Wishing you a very wonderful first Kruger trip :D

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I never switch off the engine ctm7943, and when I see eles I try to pass them and photograph them out of the rear windows. On the odd occasion that one has been a bit fed up, one can get away easily.

When they are on the road I wait for them to get of fit, even if it means reversing for 2 km (which I have done) while they amble along.

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Never ever switch of the engine..... as BushB said.........rear window......I want to add, safe distance. If need be, make a u-turn and go the opposite direction.......or slowly tag along behind them at a respectable safe distance. if you feel that pounding fear of being to close, you probably are...... :mrgreen: give the guy some space.......some of them needs it :tongue:

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The vast majority of eles will be relaxed and get on with what they are doing. It is just the odd one......

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ctm7943 wrote:
We will be visiting Kruger in a couple of weeks for the first time.
This happens to be one of my few areas of concern (elephant charges).
After reading this thread and other sites for advice on how to handle encounters with elephants.
I am now confused :hmz: .
Many of the posts refer to the noise(s) that a car makes, as a possible contributing factor.
And I have read advisories to turn off the engine.

I must admit, the idea of turning off the engine is "very scary". :big_eyes:
Especially with the possibility of facing an agitated ellie.
Which could be agitated by someone else's actions and not mine.

So, it it best to shut off the engine?


Never ever turn your engine off, ctm. In fact keep a wide berth between yourself and anything that may even slightly resemble an ellie. Above all, don't be one of those people who stop very close to one, comment loudly on the fact that it's an elephant, and then stick half your body out of the vehicle to take a photo of one of his/her wrinkles on macro setting.

You laugh? I've witnessed it. I wanted to charge them, never mind the ellie.

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