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 Post subject: What is your feeling about Lower Sabie sunset birdhide?
Unread postPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:49 am 
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I would like to know how you would feel if there were a bird hide at sunset dam?

After I had a beautiful sighting of a big male lion drinking water at Sunset dam but had to return to the gate because it was 1 minute to 6 pm about 2 days ago I was wondering the following :

What if there were a bird hide at Sunset dam accessible from Lower sabie for example you climb some stairs from inside the camp that cross the road on a high bridge and then take a few 100 m walk to the side opposite the road to Skukuza. Just a small wooden bridge like a footpath in the air.

You can then walk into a mini bird hide maybe 2 meters high with a few permanent spotlights and can then sit for hours at night at the Sunset dam.

Would you hate or like something like this?


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Unread postPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:09 am 
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There was a big discussion about new bird hides in KNP a few months ago - unfortunately i couldn´t find it right now.

Anyway i think Sunset dam wouldn´t be a good place because a new hide there would cause to much impact on the environment and so would a path from Lower Sabie. It is a long way to walk from Lower Sabie to Sunset dam and therefore an animal-safe path would cause a lot of damage.

I think that there are enough hides in the southern part already.

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 Post subject: Re: What is your feeling about Lower Sabie sunset birdhide?
Unread postPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:21 am 
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I dont think it is a good idea at all unfortunately. It sounds like a very ambitious project and would be an eyesore.


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Unread postPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:40 am 
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There have been similar suggestions raised by formites recently.
I remember Mama Fariu starting a topic on building new bird hides.
That went all the way to SanParks and they communicated back saying they do not have any interest in developing new bird hides :thumbs_up:
Somewhere in that response I remember them saying that if a new birdhide was to be built it would be in the North.

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 Post subject: Re: What is your feeling about Lower Sabie sunset birdhide?
Unread postPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:54 pm 
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Yes Cheetah you are quite right. I tried my best for Sanparks to build another hide but after so much communicating and debating the suggestion was turned down. It would be fantastic if they built a birdhide at Lower Sabie sunset. Mama Fariu :thumbs_up: :thumbs_up:


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I would buy into the idea of a hide (not just for birds) if the access was underground, and if eye level was near the ground.

A pathway would quickly get trodden down by the many eles that walk in the area.

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 Post subject: Re: What is your feeling about Lower Sabie sunset birdhide?
Unread postPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 2:13 pm 
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Dear Bushbaptist, I really battled for the Park to have one or two more hides, who do you think could get any further than I did (I am not being rude hey). Regards Mama Fariu


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 Post subject: Re: What is your feeling about Lower Sabie sunset birdhide?
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No offence taken Mama F.

I just replied to how I saw any possibility - no matter how remote.
I know it will never happen.
Thanks for all your efforts anyway :thumbs_up:

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I don't support the idea.

If it was a smaller camp like a bush camp with limited visitors then that would have been something different but how on earth will you accommodate everybody who stays at Lower Sabie in a hide for everybody would like to be there at sunrise and sunset and after dark.

Thank you but No thank you.

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 Post subject: Re: What is your feeling about Lower Sabie sunset birdhide?
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agreed about the madhouse just before gate closing time
it already is because of the dam
I am all for a new hide like the one at Lake Panic
But not just next the gate like at Lower Sabie


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Sunset Hide Arena... Seating for 600, all in the front row :thumbs_up:

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Hopefully the lights will be better that those at St Georges Park!!!

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 Post subject: Re: What is your feeling about Lower Sabie sunset birdhide?
Unread postPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:55 pm 
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Hi All,

I don`t think a hide will be a good idea because :-
a] There will be to much off a congestion of vehicles resulting to many people parking at one end and strolling along the waters edge to the hide.
b] For safety reasons Hippos and Crocs cross the H4-1 often during the day.
c] Most of the hides in Kruger are off the beaten track and attract more of a discerning visitor and i`m afraid a hide at Sunset dam will be invaided by an unruly mob.
I`m sure alot more reasons could be found and most of them to do with the SAFETY of Kruger visitors.
Maybe some sort of roving birdhide that leaves Lower-Sabie to Sunset Dam on a 2 hourly return trip say an hour before gates open and stays out an hour after the gates close with maybe another two visits during the day.


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That would be a great idea, I will be willing to pay for an activity like a walk or drive where you get transported say a group of 6 or 8 to sunset hide as you said maybe 1 hour before gate close and then picked up one hour after gate close, which will stop an overcrowd.

Then again there were an overcrowd midday at lower sabie restaurant, not 1 person at the view upstairs and not 1 person on the walking path.


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Unread postPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:26 pm 
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Bush Baptist festive idea!!!!! Just imagine the uproar. Mama Fariu


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