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 Post subject: Re: Avitourism in Kruger
Unread postPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:14 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Avitourism in Kruger
Unread postPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:54 am 
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In all the 35 years we've been visiting KNP, we have never found a guide on a game drive who was very interested in birding. The biggest let-down was last December when we booked a trip at Punda, and was forced to go with a stand-in as the regular guide was late getting back to camp with a group of people doing the sunset drive. This man even fell asleep at the wheel and drove off the road, didn't stop for anything.
We were 6 birders on the vehicle, looking to find Pennantwinged Nightjar, (a lifer for all of us) but this guy had no clue, no interest and no control over his truck.
There should be trained bird guides and a special vehicle in each camp just for birding enthusiasts, who would dearly love to stop for owls, nightjars, etc, instead of being ignored in the quest for lions and leopards. The avitourism industry is huge, and largely being ignored by Sanparks, and only the private people, who often charge an arm and a leg for tours, have seen the opportunity to offer birding tours in and around the park.

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 Post subject: Re: Avitourism in Kruger
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Unfortunately there are people that have got no interest in birds at all. Some would even go as far as telling a guide to please move on when the guide stopped to look at birds. "Ag man, it is just a *&^$#* small little bird, where are the lions?? " were the words. You can't pick your crowd when going on a game drive, unless you book and pay for all the seats yourself. If there is a dedicated 'bird' vehicle, marked as such, it will discourage the 'big fivers' to get on board.

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 Post subject: Re: Avitourism in Kruger
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I don't know if you get anything bigger than SANP's Big Birding Weekends. Now if that is not pure avitourism then I don't know. :roll:


Yes, but a lot of visitors won't know about those weekends.........especially overseas ones.
We will book our stay in the park, and it most probably wouldn't coincide with a Big Birding Weekend, therefore it would be great if there could be drives specifically for birders, or at least with drivers who are knowledgeable about birding, and allow time to stop at bird sightings as well as the bigfive.

Where do I find out about SANparks Big Birding weekends please? :hmz:

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 Post subject: Re: Avitourism in Kruger
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What i do miss in the new zoning plan is a new birdhide in the south
Its the bussiest part of the park so imo it will be nice to have one in the Pretoriuskop area

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 Post subject: Re: Avitourism in Kruger
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What i do miss in the new zoning plan is a new birdhide in the south
Its the bussiest part of the park so imo it will be nice to have one in the Pretoriuskop area


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But i was thinking in the biyamiti area :hmz:
More birdhides would mean that there are less traffic on the roads :whistle:

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 Post subject: Re: Avitourism in Kruger
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:lol: :lol:
That is why it should be near Pretoriuskop :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Avitourism in Kruger
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That is why it should be near Pretoriuskop :wink:


OK then, we would please like a birdhide in the Pretoriuskop area SANParks if you guys want to enhance avitourism. Just a thought. :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: Avitourism in Kruger
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wildtuinman wrote:
I don't know if you get anything bigger than SANP's Big Birding Weekends. Now if that is not pure avitourism then I don't know. :roll:


Yes, but a lot of visitors won't know about those weekends.........especially overseas ones.
We will book our stay in the park, and it most probably wouldn't coincide with a Big Birding Weekend, therefore it would be great if there could be drives specifically for birders, or at least with drivers who are knowledgeable about birding, and allow time to stop at bird sightings as well as the bigfive.

Where do I find out about SANparks Big Birding weekends please? :hmz:


Think I got forgotten on the bottom of the previous page. :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Avitourism in Kruger
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Val I don't know but I would like someone to answer your Question as well :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: Avitourism in Kruger
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Crested Val wrote:

Where do I find out about SANparks Big Birding weekends please? :hmz:


They are run by the Honorary Rangers so have a look on their board here

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 Post subject: Re: Avitourism in Kruger
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Thanx Sara. :thumbs_up: :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: Avitourism in Kruger
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Unfortunately there are people that have got no interest in birds at all. Some would even go as far as telling a guide to please move on when the guide stopped to look at birds. "Ag man, it is just a *&^$#* small little bird, where are the lions?? " were the words. You can't pick your crowd when going on a game drive, unless you book and pay for all the seats yourself. If there is a dedicated 'bird' vehicle, marked as such, it will discourage the 'big fivers' to get on board.


That is what was so nice about the one Punda night drive. There were four of the smaller game drive vehicles ready to go, and before any one got on, a clear announcement was made that the birders should "go with the lady" :D (That vehicle was packed, but everyone got excited over night jars and owls, so it was perfect!)


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 Post subject: Re: Avitourism in Kruger
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There is an outstansing request on this thread for more information on Honorary Rangers Avi-Tourism events primarily in Kruger but also in the other parks.
Firstly the Kruger SASOL/HR weekends in January and February 2013 for which I am told there are still some places at Mopani, Letaba, Olifants, Talamati and Shingwedzi.
At present there are available space at:
25-27 January 2013
1. Mopani Camp (Mopani often gets bad press because it is felt that the mopane woodland and scrublands do not hold as much wildlife as the thornveld of further south, but birding wise the area is excellent and offers a real chance of black coucal, white-backed night-heron, Montagu’s and pallid harrier, Caspian plover and many other juicy things in the NShawu Pan/Tropic of Capricorn strip)
2. Letaba Camp (Collared Pratincole, Green-capped Eremomela, Greater Painted-Snipe, African Barred Owlet are some of the highly probable ticks one can see in or from camp and Sooty Falcon has been recorded in recent summers)
3. Olifants (Pel’s Fishing Owl, White-backed Night-Heron, Rufous-bellied Heron, Black Coucal are some of the more exciting records from previous Birding Weekends)

8-10 February
1. Shingwedzi – (The formerly resident Collared Palm-Thrushes seem to have disappeared, but given the high density of Lala Palms along the river that might be a transient thing, and several other rare vagrant species have been recorded over the years along the Shingwedzi – like red-footed falcon, Palmnut Vulture and the park’s only record of an augur buzzard!)
2. Talamati (groups of 4 only) – (one of the best areas to get Senegal Lapwing and many other grassland specials of the park’s central region)
For details of the weekend go to:
http://www.sanparksvolunteers.org/event ... andbirding
or
http://www.sanparksvolunteers.org/west- ... on?start=3
If you want the booking form you have to click at the appropriate place on the above page.

The filled out booking form should be sent to :
westrandbirders@gmail.com.

Then a little sooner is the Punda Mania weekend in November. Not sure if there is still availability left on that, but Punda is a complete win for special birds.
Punda Mania Punda Maria Camp in Kruger National Park
http://www.sanparksvolunteers.org/event ... ndamania12

Other pending birding weekends in some of the other parks can be sussed at
West Coast National Park
http://www.sanparksvolunteers.org/event ... wader-bash
Southern Cape Parks (Garden Route NP and surrounding areas)
http://www.sanparksvolunteers.org/event ... nisbirding
Marakele National Park
http://www.sanparksvolunteers.org/event ... elebirding
Addo Elephant National Park
http://www.sanparksvolunteers.org/addo-region
Karoo National Park
http://www.sanparksvolunteers.org/event ... roobirding


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Plenty to choose from....thanks Owl. :thumbs_up:

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