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Unread postPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 10:45 am 
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Hallo krs10a and welcome!

Water and Trees = ellie magnets, so where you find rivers and dams like around Shingwedzi with Kanniedood Dam and Letaba's Engelhard dam, where there is a constant supply of both, you will find ellies, and lots of them. Fortunately Shingwedzi is also very competitavely priced with accomodation and is a quieter camp, but nontheless beautiful! You can sometimes drive for houers without meeting other cars, so its a nice region to just sit and relax when spotting animals without too much disturbance from other traffic.

They also like the Mopani brush, so you are bound to find them between Letaba and Shingwedzi. You can check out the trip report of Ralfv of the "three musketeers go north" in the trip reports thread. There he describe the big breeding herds they encountered in and around Shingwedzi, and they also have quite a few big but very dorsile bulls up there. And when they are feeding at the river banks or at the Kanniedood dam they make for great viewing. :wink:

At Letaba we also walked literally right next to ellies (within 4 meters) at the fence, at the river's side of the footpath at sundown. Was an incredible experience when they give that deep rumble and you feel the low and deep soundwaves vibrate through your stomack and lungs. :shock: Very humbling experience being right next to something so big and powerful. Just always be very quiet when so near to them. Their sight aint good but the slightest sudden sound will spook them when you are that close to them.. You can also check the big five sighting maps link on the Sanparks homepage (near the bottom ) There they indicate the biggest concentrations of all the big 5.


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Shing is one of my fav places for this time of year too... if you can stand the heat! 8)
Another short but lovely trip for late afternoons: pack some goodies in a cooler box and dash out to Shing bridge for sundowners.

Sirheni can't go wrong, no matter what time of year.

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 Post subject: Best way to see game
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There seems to be a general consensus on, slower is better, right place, right time.
I have been to KNP many times and know the above to be true.
However, my question is this:
To see the most game, when is the best time to go to a water hole and are there any water holes that are considered better than others in terms of the amount of game seen during a day. Obviously we know that animals move around so let's not comment on that one.
Factors to consider when addressing the best water hole would be the view, a shady place to park and therefore spend some time there without being "cooked" in a hot car. Facilities resonably close by such as toilets and leg-stretching places. Orpen dam might be considered given that there are toilets and one can actually get out of the car. Similarly, we could consider N'wanetsi.
Any others you guys can come up with?

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Hi BunnyHugger,

There's some info in this thread that might interest you. Waterholes and Dams


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Hi BunnyHugger,

Although quite far from any camp, I love Sonop waterhole, situated along the H6 east from Satara. Maybe because I have special memories there....

When you approach Sonop, it looks quiet, but I dare you, stay there for 30 min, if you have time ofcourse..., I have seen buffalo, lion, warthog, impala, zebra and 2 elephants within 1 and a half hour.....amazing for a 'seemingly' quiet waterhole

My opinion is that the late afternoons are better for waterhole viewings than the early morning, I dont know why, its just a feeling I have, I never see much at waterhole in the early morning. Sonop unfortunatly doesnt have much shade....

A second, equal popular hide of mine, is the Sweni hide....the peace is unmatched. A good thing (and bad) about this hide is , its so far from main camps, and situated on an infamous road, so not too much visitors as is the case with Lake Panic...

Both Sweni and Sonop have the advantage that it is not too far from N'wanetsi, so in an case of emergency, its less than 8 km ..

Hope this is what you meant :wink:

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BH you HAVE to spend time at Girivana W/H!!!! It is an awesome spot. We have always been entertained by something there. Always dead quite when we arrive and in a few mins. it's a hive of activity. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Leopards & Cheetas
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In the Park! :big_eyes: All over - no right or wrong answer. Luck is what it comes down to - right place at the right time. Although having said that take into consideration their terrains - Leopards are found more often in riverine areas like between Skukuza and Lower Sabie and along the S100, while Cheetah prefer grasslands / woodlands as they rely on their speed to catch prey. Good areas for cheetah are the S28 by Crocodile Bridge and the Satara region, although I haven't seen cheetah there! :redface:

Or just tune in to a Currie Cup game - Free State Cheetahs and Mpumulanga Leopards play most weekends in the winter!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Leopards & Cheetas
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I agree with Shortcourse and Emily86, you just have to be in the right place at the right time.

As well as you need to know where to look and what their habits are, like a leopard would lie in a dense area at the base of a tree or a shady bush during the hottest part of the day where as a cheetah will be more in the open Savannah areas under a shady tree!

At Dawn you will find most of your predators walking around, but cheetah don't like to move a lot at night for fear of being killed by other stronger predators.

At dusk you will find your nocturnal creatures starting to awaken and you will have a very good chance of seeing Leopard!

But anyway enjoy your trip :D

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 Post subject: Re: Leopards & Cheetas
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Like everyone said(almost everyone) its about being at the right time at the right place but you can improve your chances by knowing where they are mostly found.
The area around Skukuza has the highest concentration of leopards so try to do the roads there as much as possible, but it is in the south which means more cars bigger traffic jams and more idiotic behavior from unresponsible people. :evil:
The H10 and the roads arouns the Mlondozi picnic site are known to be cheetha territory and they have been sighted there on a regular basis.(Check the reports from Lower sabie and Mads TR) and the ofcourse the S100 :twisted: !!

But like said drive slowly and look at the sightings board in the camps. they give you an idea of what going on around the camps.

And then also try to do a sunset drive if possible, leopard are mostly nocturnal so your chances will increase.

I agree maby give a bit more of info on your trip.
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 Post subject: Re: Leopards & Cheetas
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Actually, if you look for the other treasures of the park, like the birds, you're more likely to find them.
I call cheetah 'ironed cats', due to the fact that if they lay down only that round little head is a bump on the floor. The rest is flat! No hips, no lungs.... At least so it seems...
Leopards seem to hang around in trees. Never seen that, poor things have a fear of heights I think.

But I have spotted both! Just by driving around, looking the whole 360 degrees, which includes up, looking for movement. Could be a bird, Which!?, could be just a leaf, could be a flick of an ear. Cat?

Just drive slowly, and look at everything. Not just one thing, and you'll see far more... And enjoy yourself more. Don't set targets, let Kruger serve them...

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 Post subject: Re: Leopards & Cheetas
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Hi there :D

I would say all the above advice is quite valid..However, I also know you want more 'specific' info besides the @ the right time @ the right place explanation :wink:

Leopard: indeed it's probably one of the most elusive animals, and because of their special hiding techniques one can hardly pinpoint certain spots in Kruger to find them. However, generally they tend to appear more often close to (major) riversystems, thus riverine area's, altough not exclusive. I personally find Skukuza a good base to start from, and some people say the same about Shingwedzi, which I'm about to find out. I also want to particularly name the southern part of the s114 and s25 as a 'hotspot' but this is personal. The Berg-en-Dal area is also quite good, as is Lower-Sabie. Indeed, early morning & late afternoon increases your chances, as well as a sunset or night drive.

Cheetah: These are 'day-animals' and BB has already mentioned the best routes, which are IMHO the H7 (Orpen side), the H10, the s28 (bigtime!) and the H3. Dunno about north from personal experience, but some have mentioned the H1-7 between Shingwedzi and Punda :D

Yet again, try your luck and happy searching 8) Enjoy ALL wildlife so BTW :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: Leopards & Cheetas
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Hey peter7 and others :D !

As mentioned leopards and cheetahs prefer different habitats which sometimes overlap.

Here is a pic of a great sighting we had of cheetah on the S130 near Crocodile Bridge... good area to spot both leopard and cheetah. Enjoy.

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 Post subject: TIPS for Game Spotting/Travelling in Kruger
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With acknowledgement to JenB for the idea

Like so many others active on the Forum I have been visiting Kruger for many years. I have had unbelievable trips and others, (but only long ago), where I've questioned why I bothered. Over the years I've come to realise that it's not just the Big Five - it's the total experience that makes Kruger so addictive to me.

Having gone through many of the responses to other Subjects on the Forum I realise that you may do things differently so my approach is not intended to cause any controversial reaction - please be positive. I hope that you will add your tips so that at the end of the day all who read the Posts can decide what suits their Game Viewing objective and the circumstances of their visit.
Who knows with all the collective experience you have we could end up with a useful guide of benefit to the rookie and more experienced visitor alike.

This is MY approach

- When travelling at the speed limit, for example moving between camps, with a clear road ahead I occupy centre road. This improves my chance of stopping in the event of animals suddenly coming onto the road. If oncoming traffic appears I immediately move left and slow down.
- Irrespective of my speed if I see animals in or on the side of the road I slow down and proceed with caution so that I can stop quickly in need.
This precaution has proved particularly appropriate when Impala are crossing - they follow the leader and don't stop for vehicles.
- On a leisurely game spotting drive travelling speed can be adjusted according to the number of occupants (and them being awake!) and how keen you are to see anything other than the obvious.
- If alone, you need to travel very slowly or otherwise depend on people in other vehicles to spot the game for you. I prefer the former but the choice is yours.
- Screaming Baboons and snorting Impala may indicate the presence of a predator - typically a Leopard. To detect those signs keep the radio off and windows open - again your choice.
- When taking an off-road detour, for example with a river view, don't just ride in look around and ride out. Park, switch the engine off and wait for a while. Sometimes that animal, not immediately in view will emerge when all is quiet.
- At water holes, especially in the winter dry season, don't just drive in look around and leave - sit a while, a few minutes can change everything.
- Back in camp keep your ears open - listen for others discussing their sightings and have a look at the board reflecting the day's Big Five. Neither guarantees their presence later - but use your judgement and you may be lucky!

Well Forumites those are my initial thoughts. Please criticise constructively where necessary and add your contributions - it can only be of benefit to the overall Kruger Park experience for all who choose to participate.

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 Post subject: Re: Game Spotting/Travelling in Kruger
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Very good ideas Dave. We normally do what you have suggested. We particularly enjoy travelling on the gravel roads - often see more than on the tar roads.


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Vultures in dead trees are usually roosting, vultures in green trees are usually waiting for a predator to move off a kill.
Manage the heat. Drive with the windows open and listen.
Do all the little loops and roads to waterholes. Often you are rewarded.
Ask people what they are looking at, politely of course. If you are not a birder - you are unfortunately only half a NP enthusiast - slowly drive off without spoiling the sighting, and showing your disappointment.
At impala herds, look around for other species.
If you see something good on the left, also look on the right (and vice versa) often there are more on the other side of the road.
If you see people 'waiting for lions' either in grass or having walked into the bush, drive on, don't waste your time.
If 'it' is 200 metres off the road, drive on, chances are you will see 'it' closer.

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