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Re: What should I do when I see litter on the side of the ro

Unread postby Bush Baptist » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:59 pm

Rooies wrote:I know that it is wrong, and I do apologize for that, but I can't drive past litter wthout picking it up. For fear of being mentioned in the "Gallery of shame", I wait untill there are no cars around and then get out and pick up the litter.


That is exactly what I did Rooies, on my last trip, but it backfired.....

I saw an energy drink bottle half drunk on the side of the road between Malelane & Skuk. I stopped, looked around and popped out of the car and picked it up. Just as I got to my door, a police car slid over the rise. :big_eyes: :slap:

The officer :rtm:

I got aggressive and told him what I thought of the gits who had caused me to do this darstardly deed :sniper:

He let me off with a warning. Now, if it is clearly not 'dangerous' litter, I stop right next to it and open the door slightly and pick it up. I will have to learn with a very heavy heart to drive on after reading the above.
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litter problem in Kruger

Unread postby furbz » Thu Sep 15, 2011 1:30 pm

Hi,

not sure if this is the right place to post this...

i recently got back from the park and am very disappointed in the state of the park.
it feels like a rubbish tip...

(we stayed in Lower Sabie rest camp)

on all our game drives i couldnt help but notice how many bottles are lying on the side of the road.
paper and plastic are also around but broken bottles and cans are now no longer as rare a sighting as they used to be.

i know we cant choose who to let into the park but is there not a clean up effort that is in place to help clean up the mess?


at one stage 10km out of Lower sabie i was seeing a bottle every 50m!!

i am also looking for the link for customer feedback but i suspect it is down at the moment.
if someone could help with this?

Thanks

Keith

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Re: litter problem in Kruger

Unread postby Andy Evans » Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:23 am

Hi Keith,

Just to add my 10c worth - the take away packaging that the camps are using i.e. L S, Skuks, Pretoriuskop, Berg n Dal etc is 100% bio degradable. We supply it to Compass. :lol: :lol: :lol: It is made of sugar cane pulp which is a sustainable resource as sugar cane is harvested once a year. HOWEVER - this doesnt mean we can litter :naughty: :naughty: :naughty: :naughty: :naughty:

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Re: litter problem in Kruger

Unread postby Stark » Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:49 pm

To look at the flip-side, I recall DB posting some stats on a major trash initiative that was undertaken (money, manpower) that yielded a relatively small pile of trash. Could the problem be isolated to a certain part of the park?
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Re: litter problem in Kruger

Unread postby annapangolin » Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:33 am

So much litter on the roads :( Makes me very sad.

Occasionally, I see guys walking along the roads picking it up :thumbs_up: . Not often enough though.

In the last week i've got out of the car several times to pick up things like plastic bags and beer bottles. I know i'm breaking rules, but I refuse to drive by things like that. Sadly, i'm seeing so many used nappies in the road :big_eyes: I don't pick those up. What goes through somebody's mind when they throw something like that out of a window?! :sniper: I also don't pick up the masses of toilet paper that litter the roads :(

I did let these guys hang on to their spoon though.

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Re: Not speeding - but tail gating

Unread postby Grantmissy » Fri May 25, 2012 12:55 pm

Sometimes people "tail gate" behind you for some time and when they overtake you, you tail gate behind them again, almost as if they want to say :tongue: gotcha :D . But I know it is usually not like that as people in Kruger are by far mostly friendly but it can get a bit much if someone is driving on your tail feathers :? .
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Re: how many stompies did you see today

Unread postby isinkwe » Sat Oct 27, 2012 7:31 pm

Cigarette Butts?
Too many on my travels while Kruger parking.
I am a smoker and I always have a container in my vehicle to dispose of the ugly smelly butts, and boy does it make my car smell ugly,
I put up with my own filthy habit and empty my smelly ashtray in the dustbins in the appropriate manner at the end of each day.
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Re: how many *cigarettes* stompies did you see today

Unread postby Heksie » Sat Oct 27, 2012 7:39 pm

I always carry a water bottle with me that I call my 'cancerwater/kankerwater'
But now I bought those plastic cigarette cups/ashtrays that are pretty awesome and a lot easier to control. I don't even ash in the Park. And with sightings I can put my cigarette in there while taking kiekies. No cigarette butts in the Park :naughty:
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Re: how many *cigarettes* stompies did you see today

Unread postby Drew Cairncross » Sat Oct 27, 2012 8:59 pm

Heksie, I think you are referring to the ashtray called "Bhika"? They are brilliant. I used to use one of those metal ones, with the spinning top, but they tend to rust, as I used it on my boat as well. The Bhika has solved that problem, and like you, I enjoy a bit of photography, so it works to hold a cigarette.

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Re: how many *cigarettes* stompies did you see today

Unread postby Grantmissy » Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:21 am

I think littering of any kind is not good. It is always better to place rubbish in the rubbish bins so that the animals can see that humans are responsible.
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Re: Litter and lawlessness in Kruger....

Unread postby Grantmissy » Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:22 am

I think people who do not respect the rules and regulations of Kruger are one of the most upsetting things to digest for those who do respect the rules and regulations. That is why it is best to keep on reporting them (those people who break the rules).
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Re: Litter and lawlessness in Kruger....

Unread postby Delene D » Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:59 pm

I was taught in my earliest years to put refuse in the bin. I taught my kids, and they are teaching their kids. I was told by a fellow who dropped his drink carton on the pavement (when I pointed out where the refuse bin was) that he is making employment for another guy to pick it up. I told him the municipality puts out refuse bins so that their employed guy can pick that up. He used abusive language and walked on. I picked up his carton and put it in the bin. The thing is education, education, education. But the parents (and teachers) do not seem to care! That is why our country and towns and Parks are so filthy!!!

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Re: Litter and lawlessness in Kruger....

Unread postby Bush Baptist » Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:00 pm

According to the rules on the Kruger entry permit, isn't Kruger a non smoking area?
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Re: Litter and lawlessness in Kruger....

Unread postby kallis1786 » Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:00 pm

Hi guys, I was in the Park in June and it was my first visit.

Ovarall, I found very little Law breakers, and even at Predator sightings, there was no such incident, although I did manage to come across speeding a few times.

I do believe the Park is in very good hands.

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Re: Litter and lawlessness in Kruger....

Unread postby RalfK » Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:25 pm

I am a Kruger Park lover and we go once or twice a year. My twin daughters love the place and they will be 13 years next week!
It really bugs us how many visitors and even park staff brake the rules in the park, even writing to the parks head nothing seems to change!!!!!
I really hope that something will change in the park and our country with law and order!
Hope that our kids will be able to enjoy the Kruger for years to come like I have been since I was 4 years old, I am 47 now and will go there every year again!
Yes dustbins seem to be far and few in the camps!
Stop speeding, please!!!!


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