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 Post subject: Re: Yellow lines on Olifants bribge not to be ignored on foo
Unread postPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:47 am 
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That Leopard must have been awesome to watch.
As for the yellow lines, I am sure they are placed strategically to allow enough time to get into cars if a predator happened to walk onto the bridge.
A good idea is to stay between them when out of your vehicle.


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 Post subject: Re: Yellow lines on Olifants bridge not to be ignored on foo
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Wow what an experience HenriKriek! :mrgreen: :D
Something similar happened to my parents on the same bridge about 12 years ago,
They were on a night drive from Olifants and stopped off on the bridge just after the sun went down for a drinks break and everyone got off one of the big 20 seaters.
A few people stayed on the truck and as luck would have it the person with the spotlight shone casually down the road towards the back of the bridge and stalking up the road was a fully grown male lion! :shock:
They all very quickly got into the truck and when they drove towards the other side of the bridge 3 lioness were on the other side! :)

But i agree, the lines are definitely there for a reason, but during the day, unprovoked i doubt any healthy cat would venture onto the bridge :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: Yellow lines on Olifants bridge not to be ignored on foot...
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I do think wherever one alights from one's vehicle in Kruger, there is risk. Even in the camps.

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 Post subject: Re: Yellow lines on Olifants bridge not to be ignored on foot...
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I may not be an expert, but it does not take much to realise, that an expert has thought about how long it would take a predator to travel to a human on the bridge and then painted the yellow line so there is time to jump back in the vehicle. :big_eyes:


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 Post subject: Alighting from the car on bridges?
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We stayed in KNP for 4 nights over the "long weekend" in August.
I was concerned about the amount of people alighting from their vehicles on the bridges in the south of the Park.
As far as I know there are only 2 bridges in the Park where it is allowed to get out of the car?

Could someone please advise on what the rules are for alighting from your vehicle on a bridge?
(I would personally sponsor a sign to say "do not get out of your car on the bridge.... etc.)

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 Post subject: Re: Alighting from the car on bridges?
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No yellow lines = stay in the car. Period.

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 Post subject: Re: Alighting from the car on bridges?
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All high water bridges in the middle and north
Olifants, Letaba, Shingwedzi and believe the one crossing the Luvuhu in the north is a new addition

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 Post subject: Re: Alighting from the car on bridges?
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I can only agree with Dinkybird. It is very pleasant there as the riverine forest is just beautiful there. Luvuvhu river bridge is my favorite of the four bridges where you are allowed to alight your car.

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 Post subject: Re: Alighting from the car on bridges?
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I know there are the yellow stripes and signage on bridges that you are allowed to get out of your car, but is the opposite true?
I don't recall if "stay in your car" bridges are marked with signage?

If not, that might be a worthwhile and simple project. (a few signs per bridge)

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 Post subject: Re: Alighting from the car on bridges?
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I see what Starks is getting at.
Sensible people like us, know that you only get out at bridges with yellow lines and you only stay within those yellow lines.
However not everyone is sensible, and they see you can get out at some bridges, so wrongly assume you can get out at them all.
A sign on each bridge saying you may alight, or you may not alight might clarify things better.
I know in an ideal world this should not be necessary, but more and more people are breaking the rules.
It would be extra expense, but maybe the way to go.

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 Post subject: Re: Alighting from the car on bridges?
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I have noticed that more and more people are getting out on the high level bridge near Skukuza and while it is a nice long bridge, I am sure the reason for not allowing this is because of the high volume of visitors in this area and the chaos that could prevail.

So yes, a sign might be useful and then at least there is something concrete so to speak. :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: Alighting from the car on bridges?
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No.... :)

It is called targeted law enforcement.
If a few simple signs will help educate and reinforcement the rules, all the better.
Signs certainly wouldn't increase the # of transgressors.

Do it scientifically.
Measure transgressor volume and frequency at a problem bridge.
Interview transgressors.
Then put up the signs.
Note volumes again.

After all, every major camp posts the rules.
Why? Because reinforcement doesn't hurt and certainly may help.

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 Post subject: Re: Alighting from the car on bridges?
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Maybe a large reminder notice at camp gates saying 'stay in your car unless there is a sign saying you may get out' - with a graphic showing someone outside a car and a red line through it for those who cannot read English.

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 Post subject: Re: Alighting from the car on bridges?
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I mean in a perfect world we would not need any signage for that matter in the park, no speed restriction boards, no road signs, no camp names, no signage for the times when the gates open and close, after all, its all in the map you can buy and the permit you get at the gate!
but unfortunately its not a perfect world. :(

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 Post subject: Re: Alighting from the car on bridges?
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Many of the camps are very pretty and yet we can place more signs around for this and that to try to teach people to have consideration.
They stay forever and usually, more are added and IMO, those that will not consider anything but themselves will ignore them. :evil:


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