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 Post subject: Re: Vehicle for 6 adults for Kruger and SA driving
Unread postPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:49 pm 
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Hi Juanita,

How wonderful that you are coming back and bringing your parents with you to experience the wonder of our country. :clap:

We just recently went to a KZN park with the whole family and hired a Toyota Quantum which is a mini bus sort of vehicle.
It seated all 10 of us comfortably but must admit some of the windows didn't fully open but we rotated our seating and everyone seemed happy enough.
Not sure if there are any in that category that would all open.
It had plenty of room for luggage, even under the seats.

You might find some advice in This Thread

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 Post subject: Re: Vehicle for 6 adults for Kruger and SA driving
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saraf wrote:
I do know that Elsa's family has a few photographers so if they didn't have opening windows there would have been a riot.
He he, you know us too well Sarah! :wink:

As I recall, the only windows that didn't open at all were the ones next to the back row of seats, but then with only 6 you could leave that area for luggage.
The others opened at least half way and of course the front 2 fully.
Must say it wasn't the most comfortable of vehicles but then we are pretty spoilt with our own vehicle! :wink:
but it had a very good air conditioner, coped well in the extreme heat we had on the way home.
I am not sure if they come with an automatic gearbox, ours was a manual.
And it had plenty of power, to haul all 10 of us and a trailer up pretty steep hills.

Good idea to have a look at the website.

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 Post subject: Re: Little Rant and request for help
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Hi. I drive an Avanza and specially bought it to use in Kruger.
Has good height for KP and is economical and comfortable. I lift my disabled father into it, so it should be cool for less mobile people.
Its seen many trips to Kruger and will see many more.
I recommend it.


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 Post subject: Re: Little Rant and request for help
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Sorry forgot to mention has great boot/trunk space as well.


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 Post subject: Re: Car choice/best vehicle for Kruger
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Hi,

We had a Huyundai Tuscon on our recent trip in the KNP. Good car. My only advice would be to go for an automatic if you have the option. I found the constant gear changing a bit annoying as I had a manual.

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 Post subject: Re: Car choice/best vehicle for Kruger
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Every time I've been to the Kruger it's been with a low sedan. However, since then I've also got myself a Hyundai Tucson, so I'm looking forward to the change! :dance:

Advantages that I can think of in a Tucson are definitely the ride-height. Then the good aircon, fuel consumption, the electric windows front and back that go down all the way. Spacious interior, loading capacity is fair and can be increased if the seats are folded. And then a BIG plus for me is the cruise-control, which is standard on the Tucson!

10 more sleeps and I'm in the park!


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 Post subject: Re: Car Hire Companies
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In The FAQ are links to some companies.

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 Post subject: Car Insurance. and Gravel Roads In Kruger
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Hi I'm after some advice, we are going to Kruger next month and I have hired a Daihatsu Terios through Holiday Autos. I phoned to check on insurance for driving on gravel roads (didn't give my booking ref for obvious reasons) only to be told "you are not covered for damage to the underside of the car while driving on gravel roads unless it is a road recognised by SA government and is the only road available" Obviously we don't intend to drive off road but would we want to drive on gravel roads .......or just stick to the tarmac roads ....... what are the roads like ........... Please share your experience on hire companies, car damage, roads in Kruger and anything else you think appropriate

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 Post subject: Re: Car Insurance.............Gavel Roads In Kruger
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To the best of my knowledge Kruger roads are part of SA's national road system as all rules that apply outside the park are also relevant inside the park.

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 Post subject: Re: Car choice/best vehicle for Kruger
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Hi Malealea - (Africa in Lesotho in a Nutshell....?),

right you are.
But: Pick-Ups are allowed in Kruger.

Doublecabs - whatever the brand - are not really suitable for 4 or 5 people hopefully seeking for a nice journey.
The backseats are poor - just made for some K´s between fieldwork and farmstead.
A Doublecab is useful with a Rooftoptent and 2 adults with some luggage & plenty of water, fuel & spares on the back.
We tried those types in Kaokoveld, Moremi & Okavango - good choice.

Back to Kruger:
We tried a Disco 4 the last 8 days - expensive, luxurious, powerful.
Never mind - it´s worth it - every pence.
4 adults, thereof 2 seniors, luggage, cameras, cooler...
What other car can carry that more comfortable?
AND: This car is definitively soundless for passengers.

LR Defender? :naughty:
Too expensive as hired car, no countervalue,
unconfortable, little legspace in frontrow,
miserable sealing against dust & water.
Inside = extremely noisy.
Aircon = overstrained.

Fatal mistake on Microbus:
This car is ment to have a high ground-clearance.
That´s a hoax/canard.
Only on the basis of the wheeldiameter: The microbus is far away of Groundclearance.

In all cases: A 4x4 is not needed for Kruger - but the seat-hight is important.
Aircon (all seats), luggage space & sealing (dust) is important.

Beware of that: More than 60% of your Krugertime take place in your car.
Think of that. :hmz:

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 Post subject: Re: Car choice/best vehicle for Kruger
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Interesting to see all the remarks about clearance, 4x4 capabilities, but missing the really important points. :lol:

You want a bit of height, a Mercedes SLK or Ferrari would not do, unless you want to count all the sorts of grasses.
So you might even go for a Renault Kangoo, they even have a 4x4 model. Nice and high, but not too expensive to rent.

Image

Looks good what?

Wrong! :naughty:

This vehicle looks quite useful for Kruger, but in actual fact is not at all. Well, it is, but if you want to view only, with the windows closed and the airco on.

What is wrong with this car are the windows in the back. They can not open at all. So if you are seated in the back you'll be hot, will not be able to photograph or video...

So what do you want to look for?

- Space.
You'll be stuck in the car for most of the day, and will want a lot of it.

- Height
To be able to look over the grass or bushes.

- Windows that open all the way
Forget about photography otherwise.

- A boot that you can access from within the car.
A ski-door in the backseat is extremely handy. Place a coolbox in the boot, opening to the front, and you can grab cold drinks and food without leaving the car. The boot is going to be reasonably cool, so the drinks will stay cooler there. And it saves space in the car.

- an engine that doesn't keep cooling itself after you turn of the engine.
Mightily handy feature, but at sightings people will not be happy with a fan running...

- An alarm that can be turned off completely.
I can remember our alarm going off when leaving a few sightings.. :redface: :redface:

- legroom!
No need for explanation I think?

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 Post subject: Rent car insurance-decline coverage/use credit card coverage
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For several trips we have taken to Europe we have declined all vehicle insurance coverage offered by the rental car agency and paid with a credit card thereby using the coverage offered by the credit card (Visa or Mastercard). It has saved a good bit of money. On the other hand, we have never had any car damage and never needed to file a claim. So in a sense I don't really know how well the credit card coverage would have worked if we had a claim since we never have had to use it.

I am pondering whether to do the same thing when we rent a car at MQP for our trip into Kruger. I'm a bit more nervous doing it for Kruger. Has anyone else rented a car at MQP, declined all insurance coverage from the rental car company, and relied solely on the coverage offered by the credit card company? And, even more, has anyone done this on a car rented from MQP and then had a claim and, if so, how did that turn out?

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 Post subject: Re: Rent car insurance-decline coverage/use credit card coverage
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Personally i wont decline the insurance. These days i take full insurance with windows and flat tyres included.

Had windowscreen damage twice, 1 flat and lost a rim.
But if this is all covered by the USA credit card company not worries

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 Post subject: Re: Rent car insurance-decline coverage/use credit card coverage
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Hi jhawktx and Welcome!

I always decline the insurance, but I have a Diners Club card, which provides primary insurance cover for rental cars — other US credit cards only provide secondary insurance cover, after your personal car insurance cover. I highly recommend getting a Diners Club card if you regularly rent cars overseas, as claiming for any damages is very easy.

Before I had a Diners Club card, I only once ever needed to claim on my Visa, but that was easy because at the time, I did not have personal car insurance, so the Visa cover was the only cover that I had. I think that it is a bit more complicated when you have to claim against your personal car insurance first and the CC insurance cover only kicks in for any excess that your personal car insurance doesn't cover.

I have had a variety of damage claims in SA since becoming a Diners Club cardholder and all have been resolved quickly. The only "complication" that I have ever had was this past March when Avis lumped the charges for the damage — hyenas in KTP "ate" my wing mirror :roll: — with the rental charges, so it took a bit of time to separate the charges for the repair so that Diners could credit me for that charge.

Good luck and have a great trip!

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 Post subject: Re: Rent car insurance-decline coverage/use credit card coverage
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I too always decline and count on my credit card coverage. Never had a claim so don't really know how well I am covered. I pray. So far so good. We did have a flat tire in Kruger but just paid the charge for fixing it at Letaba. They did a great job and as I recall the cost was not too much.

One of the things that you have to watch carefully is the number of days that the card will cover the insurance. Some are a month, some 2 weeks. Check it.

I find the cost of insurance in SA to be really high. Cost of car rentals is really high. :(

Arks - I love the story of the hyena and your mirror. Funny!

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