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I agree with the height advantage! If it is cheaper, get a 4x2! Same height!

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I agree with Imberbe. On our last trip we had a 4X2 Nissan Navara double cab diesel and that was one of the best vehicles I've driven in a park. Plenty of room, high enough of the ground and comfortable and with the double cab it was great to have the camera bag in easy reach behind us.

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 Post subject: Re: Help,,,need some advice
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A 4x4 is necessary if you plan to do one of the four adventure (self drive trails) - otherwise a sedan , or ideally a minibus type of vehicle (for extra height above other cars to see over them at sightings .)

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 Post subject: Re: Car choice/best vehicle for Kruger
Unread postPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 8:21 pm 
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Hi everyone

We’re going to Kruger in 2 months time, and with our 2 kids, we have a lot of luggage for 25 days. We booked an X-trail last year and all of our luggage fitted just fine. This year we will have a bit more luggage with us, because it will be winter and winter clothes and blankets take more space.(Don’t look at the mess; it was the end of our 10 day kruger trip last year :redface: )
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This year I booked a Nissan x-trail thru http://www.car-rental.co.za They said I can pick up the car from Europcar at the airport. But when I visited europcar's website, I couldn’t find the X-trails in their fleet. So I e-mailed them and asked why this is.

This is her response.

'Thank you very much for your email. The reason why this is not listed
on the Europcar website is mainly because they have similar types in
the same car group and that is why our quote also indicated vehicle
or similar. We have requested the Nissan X Trail but they also have
the Hyundai Tucson 2x4 in the same category and we will not be able
to guarantee the type / model that you will end up with
'


My sister has a Tucson and it really has a lot LESS luggage space than the x-trail. Does anyone have experience with this? A car being delivered other than the one that you have booked? I’m worried about arriving at Johannesburg airport 22:30 at night, getting a Tucson and our luggage not fitting? :hmz:


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 Post subject: Re: Car choice/best vehicle for Kruger
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Hi All,

The Nissan XTRAIL is better than the suggestions on the table at the moment. Why do I say this:
I drive one and it is very reliable
It has good ground clearence
It has 4x4 capability (if you take from the 2.5l up)
It have 3 12V power supplies in the car (for things like charges, cooler boxes etc)
The back seats can fold flat once you are in the park, creating a perfect playpen for kids
It has ample packing place
It is not that heavy on petrol
Nice aircon
Comfortable to drive


And thats it

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 Post subject: Re: Car choice/best vehicle for Kruger
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I have been to KNP a number of times and always find a higher vehicle best - I am going back in Jan 2010 (yipee..i'm counting down the days!) and am going to rent the VW caravelle, i find it is nicer being able to see frther back into the bush and the extra space makes it easy to have a cool box on the back seat within easy reach for a nice cool drink...
one word of advise though, make sure you don't get a Mercedes Vito - the rear windows do not open which makes it useless for game viewing, and everyone will be fighting to go in the front seat lol!!
also the nissan x-trail windows only go halfway down in the back, which really irritated the rear passengers on my last trip!
and i agree that the aircon is great just for a blast when the heat gets too much, but otherwise keeps the windows down and your ears open

Hope you have an excellent trip to my favorite place on earth <3 :P


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 Post subject: Re: Car rental and advice
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We have just spent another 2 Kruger weeks in an Avansa and loved it!
8)

It’s not quite as tall as an X trail and isn’t 4x4, but has lots of space for two. The trick is to remove the front passenger headrest and have the non-driver sitting in the back.

The view is almost as good as in the front, but has easy access to both sides. 8) 8)

Unfortunately virtually all modern cars have rear windows that do not quite go right down and the Avansa’s leave about 5~6cm of glass showing. If you are a photographer, a big double been bag works very well on it, as you need a bit of glass showing for the bag to stay firmly in place! Our been bags were from wildlifewatchingsupplies, a bit pricey but excellent.

There are 3 rows of seats leaving lots of accessible room in the back for bags cool box, cameras etc. without cluttering up the middle seats. If like us, you like to park up at a waterhole or nice shaded river view to make up your sandwiches, half the middle seat folds forward and makes a useful if not perfect table to work on.

There were times when a bit more height would have been nice, but then a low camera angle was often better! :?

Just don’t leave your lights switched on when you stop, as IT IS POSSIBLE to run the bat. flat at a long stakeout!

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Apologies for some repetition from previous post here!!!

Have a Great Trip.


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 Post subject: Re: Car rental and advice
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Last year we had a Hyundai Tucson and the back widows dropped all the way. Could get everywhere with it and performed quite well.


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I'll chuck in my 2c worth here as well.

We were'nt sure which vehicle we would end up with this year as it was classified as X-Trail or similar from No.1. We were expecting a 2X4 as well.

We were pleasantly surprised to be greeted with a Kia Sportage 4WD. There was only 2 of us so it was plenty roomy, even carrying 3 weeks worth of supplies and our gear incl a jerrycan (ran out of money last year and nearly could'nt get fuel - but that is another story :) ). The back seat folds down flat so everything packs in neatly. This vehicle was comfortable to drive with loads of leg room. The only problem I had was that the seats were a tad narrow across the shoulders for me because of the shape but this was not a major discomfort - and we spent a lot of hours in the vehicle.

The back windows do not go down all the way, but my BIL who spent a couple of days with us did not have a problem in the back seat - but he is tall at 6ft+. He also did not have leg room problems.

It's high enough to get a good view and easy enough to scramble around in for photo's.

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 Post subject: Re: Car rental and advice
Unread postPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 12:42 pm 
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Hi All,

The official replacement of the Condor is the Fortuner. They are alot higher than your Avenza and slightly higher still than the X-Trail/Tuscon SUV's. They can seat 7 if need be but 5 in total comfort. And there windows go all the way down with probably the widest in their class.

How do I know this? Because I own one!! Mines an automatic with cruise control, best combination when gameviewing!!


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Hi Utah - the vehicles mentioned by Ilovemeerkats are all regarded as compact SUVs or "softroaders", therefore not really meant for serious off-roading. Although 4x4 is available for most of these - ground clearance and no low-range gearboxes prohibits rocky terrain. This is not a problem for Sanparks roads unless you want to tackle a special 4x4 trail.

Of the 4 mentioned, the X trail is probably the roomiest, and for height, the Tucson. But generally speaking, there is very little difference, and all are very good game viewing vehicles. :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: Car choice/best vehicle for Kruger
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Hi All,

A bit of advice on the following please:

For my trip next March I have narrowed my choice of car down to the following:

Kia Sprtage - Auto (Hertz)
Hyundai Tuscon - Manual (Avis)

Any ideas on which would be the best option to go for?

Thanks
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I would prefer the Tucson.
Had it last year and it was just great.
Backwindows go down all the way. Nice size and real easy to handle. :thumbs_up:


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 Post subject: Re: Car choice/best vehicle for Kruger
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Very, very happy with the Tucson we were given on our recent trip.

Enough room for both of us plus luggage, high enough to get decent views, lots of storage space for all our books to be kept handy.

As there were an awful lot of them in Kruger at the same time as us, I suspect the hire companies think they're great too.

Would definitely have another one.

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 Post subject: Vehicle for 6 adults for Kruger and SA driving
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Hi there,

Planning a trip for this fall for my husband and myself as well as both sets of parents. We have been to SA and Kruger before (we are from Canada), but only as a couple and have simply rented a regular car or 4x4. We so want to have our parents experience this amazing country and the wildlife that has drawn us back again. Having trouble trying to find a rental vehicle that would comfortably accommodate 6 adults and reasonable luggage to drive from Cape Town to Kruger (total trip of about 2/12 to 3 weeks). Along with comfort (mostly for our parents who have never done a trip like this), we need something that will allow for good game viewing while in Kruger and possibly a couple other parks.

Wondering if anyone has any suggestions for vehicles that might fit the bill (or ones to avoid). It seems that many of the places we have looked at so far have vehicles that would have too little room or have windows that will not open for the passengers (and I don't want our parents to only see the parks through glass...we have always had our windows wide open and feel that is the best way to experience the parks). If worse comes to worse I suppose we could rent two vehicles, but that ups the expense and also takes away some of the fun of being able to talk to everyone during the quieter driving times, etc.

I appreciate any suggestions you might have.
Thanks!!

Juanita


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