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 Post subject: Re: Safari Vehicle Operators
Unread postPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 12:21 pm 
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Be there soon with both cameras primed and the videio ready.

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 Post subject: Re: Safari Vehicle Operators
Unread postPosted: Tue May 27, 2014 9:47 pm 
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I love the holier than thou attitude on the this thread, a bunch of people who only see OSV do wrong and never see locals or self drive tourists do anything bad.

I have been to the KNP five times all with the same safari operator and have seen far more egregious behaviour from locals than I ever have from OSV.

In fact a couple of examples from my last trip a week ago include a Free Stater running over the head of giraffe kill with lions feeding because he zoomed to the front of the line and then drove in front on everybody not leaving any room for him to get out. Then this man got angry at the rest of the people who castigated him for his stupidity. Then the next day at the same kill 2 locals who parked 90 degrees on the tar almost on the kill blocking traffic and views for almost everyone else and continually popping out of their windows and kids out the sunroofs for pictures spooking the cats.

Then a little further down the road a lioness with her cubs trying to cross the road, but continually being cut off by a couple locals who kept speeding ahead to try and get better pictures. These people kept doing it even after being told by our guide that she wanted to cross the road and she and her cubs were getting stressed, which to my wife and I was pretty bloody obvious judging by the look on the cats. I finally asked the OSV to block the road as I was getting beyond upset by this treatment. He begrudgingly agreed, but was worried about the goofs on boards like this and Facebook which regularly post pictures of OSV "breaking rules".

The last thing I saw that was extremely upsetting was a self drive car load of Asians stopping to feed vervets on the side of the road. Did I see any locals stopping to tell them not to do so...nope, just our driver who reported the ignorant lout

I am sure that there have been questionable OSV behaviour at times there are bad apples in any bunch, but the things I have seen from locals and self drive tourists on a consistent basis during my times there has made my doubt going back as I think more harm and stress is being caused to these animals than need to be and will eventually lead me to a possible physical interaction with one of these drivers that feel they "own" the park and everything in it regardless of whom or what they hurt.

No doubt I will now be thrashed in this thread about my feelings and how no one on here would ever hog a sighting or do anything else dubious and pretend they have only ever been on the moral high ground for everything.


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 Post subject: Re: Safari Vehicle Operators
Unread postPosted: Tue May 27, 2014 10:03 pm 
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Welcome to the forums, industry_killer and not all comments regarding safari vehicle operators on our forums are negative. Most of them are doing a great job.

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 Post subject: Re: Safari Vehicle Operators
Unread postPosted: Tue May 27, 2014 10:59 pm 
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Hi industry_killer, and welcome to the forum. 8)

If you look through the various threads about rule breakers on here, you will find very little sympathy for self-drivers or staff who break the rules, stress animals, or abuse the system. :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: Safari Vehicle Operators
Unread postPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 7:08 am 
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Stark wrote:
Hi industry_killer, and welcome to the forum. 8)

If you look through the various threads about rule breakers on here, you will find very little sympathy for self-drivers or staff who break the rules, stress animals, or abuse the system. :thumbs_up:


:thumbs_up: You also never see any compliments on here for locals who self drive and behave either, so the OSV driver should not feel bad, I have been going for years and never got a compliment for good behaviour and never expected one either as I take good behaviour for granted. It is the misbehaviour that is reported, whether it be local self drive, OSV, staff. Perhaps the OSV driver should be working on the ones in his industry who give his industry a bad name, instead of accusing the messenger of having an agenda??


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 Post subject: Re: Safari Vehicle Operators
Unread postPosted: Wed May 28, 2014 10:29 am 
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Welcome to the forum industry_killer.

Sorry to disappoint you, but I have been sworn at when pointing out to self drivers that they are not permitted to get out on bridges over the Sabie. I have also been told of great sightings by OSV guides.

But nobody has the monopoly on crass selfish and loutish behaviour, which should be reported snd perhaps confronted no matter whom it is done by.

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