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 Post subject: Re: Safari Vehicle Operators
Unread postPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:21 pm 
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So sad to read Robmeister
Luckily i have never seen this kind of behaviour
Many times i even get tips from OSV drivers
And also share because they to have people onboard who want to see something special

As more have said, please report

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 Post subject: Open Game Drive Vehicles from Outside the Park
Unread postPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:45 am 
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We spent the past weekend in Hazyview and on Saturday me and my brother-in-law went into the park for the day to see what we could find....

At 5:00 we are at Phabeni Gate and patiently waited for officials to open the gate, we had about 4 Open Game Drive Vehicles in front of us, and about another 6 or so behind us.

As officials opened the gate these vehicles went crazy, overtaking each other and pushing in front of other self-drivers to get in first.

We entered at about 6:00 and headed for Pretoriuskop via the S1 and S7, beautiful scenery, my first time I drove this road.

From there we went up again to Skukuza, we had something to eat there and stretched our legs, from Skukuza we set off to Lower Sabie. As soon as we got on the H4-1 there were some Lions in a riverbed. Once again these Open Game Drive vehicles went ballistic, pushing through cars and going off the road to get their guests to see the lions, obstructing other peoples view and causing huge traffic jams, while others patiently wait in a que, by the time three of them had passed, the lions had left.

We carried on towards Lower Sabie and from there turned to back to Paul Kruger gate. Coming closer to Paul Kruger Gate pass the turn off to Phabeni, there was another big sighting(no sure if it was lion or leopard), these guys took over again and made havoc, the same as at the other sightings, giving no one else chance but them selves.

Between sightings they drive at high speeds, my guess is higher than the speed limit, from sighting to sighting. At sightings they drive off the roads and push other cars out the way.

I am very disgusted in their behavior when in the park, they take over and are destroying the habitat of the animals we love so much. I understand that they also want to give their guests the best they can, but is it worth making the park unpleasant for self-drive visitors?

Has anyone else had this experience or am I just being difficult?

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 Post subject: Re: Open Game Drive Vehicles from Outside the Park
Unread postPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:10 am 
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Hi NJVermaak,

You are not being difficult at all, they think they own the place and can do what ever they want.
This one of the reasons I don't like going to the south. We had the best time in Kruger this weekend keeping on the less traveled roads. It is a real pity to plan your trips to avoid these guys.

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 Post subject: Re: Safari Vehicle Operators
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A long time complaint!
The thing is where you see them blatantly breaking the rules is to take photos and report them to SANParks and to the company with as many details, time, road, number of vehicle etc as possible.

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 Post subject: Re: Safari Vehicle Operators
Unread postPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:26 am 
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Agree with Elsa. If you take photos and note time and place and send it to the KNP officials they will act. The number is on your permit to check contact details.

Increasingly it seems that the operators themselves are also keen to have this information. They want to work more closely with KNP to sort out this problem so also contact the operator with the details

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 Post subject: Re: Safari Vehicle Operators
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It is always best to report them - those jeep jockeys who disrupt and create a commotion. I am glad the Operators are co-operative to ensure that their employees who misbehave in Kruger are called to order. Their company names are clearly displayed on the vehicles, so their reputation and credibility are at stake.

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 Post subject: Re: Safari Vehicle Operators
Unread postPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 11:39 am 
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In January we were traveling from Pretoriuskop to Skukuza via the H1-1. We were about 3km out from Skukuza gate when a hyena popped into the road right in front of us so we stopped to get some awesome photos and as he walked we would follow, always keeping about 30 - 40 meters between us. We spent a good 15 minutes without a single vehicle (which was surprising on a tar road that close to Skukuza!).

And in rushed one of the inconsiderate game vehicles, sped right up to the hyena with it trying to run away from the vehicle, and all the tourists snapping away. It darted into the bush and the vehicle sped off again without even taking a second look. I was so mad! Everyone could have enjoyed the company of that hyena without having it ruined for all.

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 Post subject: Re: Safari Vehicle Operators
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When we were in Kruger in October we came across lions lying in the road between Skukuza and LS, we stopped giving them plenty of space and what happened, a safari vehicle pushed in between our car and the lions totally blocking our view, he was so close to the lions that they got up and disappeared into the bush :evil: :sniper:

We were so astounded by this behavior, couldn't believe they could be so inconsiderate and just plain rude. :doh:

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 Post subject: Re: Safari Vehicle Operators
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:hmz: Watch out "Safari Vehicle Operators", see you soon!!! :twisted:

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 Post subject: Re: Safari Vehicle Operators
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Philip1 wrote:
:hmz: Watch out "Safari Vehicle Operators", see you soon!!! :twisted:


Yes Philip, you sort them out please :gflower:

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 Post subject: Re: Safari Vehicle Operators
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This problem would not be there if there was no radio contact between the vehicles. They are racing to sightings at excessive speeds and in vast numbers. We were in the Park in January and there were two very sleepy male lions at the waterhole on the S21. The portion of road leading to this waterhole had taken serious strain with the rains but the OSV's just poured down there at huge speed and in such numbers that we gave up counting when we got to nearly 20. This is absolutely insane - I was under the impression that the calling in of sightings had been stopped by Sanparks but it appears to have crept back in and is becoming a major issue again. We were originally told that they require their radios for operational emergencies. Well the average tourist does not have access to any kind of emergency radio on the roads so why should they be any different? Its one thing to report a single OSV company for extremely bad behaviour but when you have 20 vehicles heading to a sighting at high speed on a gravel road it is virtually impossible to even recognise which company is driving which vehicle. Interesting that on a number of occasions - maybe attributable to the signage on our bus and the yellow and green ribbon we have been mistaken for an official Sanparks vehicle and have even had an OSV almost apologising to us for forcing us on to the verge on a narrow gravel road.

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 Post subject: Re: Safari Vehicle Operators
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I actually find that obviously pointing a camera in their direction so that they notice it is often sufficient!!!! And that is even when I am not in uniform with decals on the car.

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 Post subject: Re: Safari Vehicle Operators
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It makes you wonder if they just take their bad behavior down the road in that case, EJ.

Agreed with what is said above, let SANParks and the company know. They can't fix a problem if we don't bring it to their attention.

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 Post subject: Re: Safari Vehicle Operators
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My question to SanParks is this.

How often and how many complaints do you have to get before you take some SERIOUS and PERMANENT ACTION to curb this behaviour????????. It does seem evident from the amount of complaints that these are on the increase and little seems to be done about it.


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 Post subject: Re: Safari Vehicle Operators
Unread postPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 12:14 am 
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Think they should bring in the more control over these guys, have had where they push in at the gate when I was first, they don't wear the guide badges(I am a guide as well but stay in the park for 7 days at a time).

All the vehicles should have id numbers on all 4 sides of the vehicles. Nice and big then we could easily report them. They give guides a bad name.

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