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True, False, Fact or Myth? (RV)

Unread postby Loams » Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:51 pm

*Post a statement requesting if it is True, False, Fact or Myth.
Motivate your choice of answer.
Once confirmation is given by the person who posted the question as to who has the correct answer, that person posts the next question as per RV quiz rules :D *

*Edited by RosemaryH 16/9/2014 to offer an explanation of rules for this quiz

I thought of a new idea for a quiz and I want to see how it works ok??

I will ask a question. The question will either be absolutely true or absolutely false

What I am hoping to achieve, is to teach people (including myself) a few things about wildlife through another avenue.

Your answer must have whether you feel it's true, false or kinda, and then your reason for saying so. This is a work in progress, so suggestions are welcome. You all know where to find my PM box ;-)

First one:
It has been proven that Donkeys are an effective anti-predator measure for livestock farmers near game reserves.
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Unread postby Salva » Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:40 pm

I'd say: true! Why? maybe because the noise they make when predators approach hence warning the farmers?
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Unread postby madach » Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:32 pm

True.

Dogs, donkeys and llamas are all used as anti-predator measure. The Cheetah Conservation Fund of Namibia has even suggested to farmers to used donkeys as well as the more commonly used Anatolian shepperd dogs.

Donkeys serve as good guardians as they severely dislike dog-like creatures. They will chase, bray at, and severely beat a predator with their front legs.

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Unread postby Salva » Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:12 pm

Hmmm now I understand why Masaai have so many donkeys.
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Re: True or False or Kinda??

Unread postby DuQues » Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:48 am

Loams wrote:It has been proven that Donkeys are an effective anti-predator measure for livestock farmers near game reserves.

Now wonder why the donkey mentioned elsewhere survived a long time in Kruger, in an area full of leopards and lions....

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Unread postby Bigmouth » Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:57 am

Kinda.

Many people underestimate the fighting ability of a donkey (or zebra). They are capable of killing a lioness with those hind legs and are also capable of taking of a good hand sized piece of skin with one bite. It was also found that predators prefer to catch donkeys in stead of cattle, I have no idea why but it could be because zebra are an easier catch than a buffalo.

One donkey, however can not patrol the whole area and more than one donkey is more interested in each other than the herd they are supposed to be protecting. More than one stallion will result in fighting each other while a stallion with mares will be more interested in protected its own kind than the rest of the farm animals.

They are thus effective, but not one hundred percent and have to managed well to get good results.
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Unread postby Jumbo » Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:58 am

This is quite a suitable way to kick of your quiz Loams….seeing that you now live in the donkey Mecca of the world :lol: …I have never seen so many donkeys as what I saw in Bots. :shock:

BTW, the farmers in Namibia are also advised to use baboons to keep the predators away.

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Unread postby bucky » Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:57 am

How on earth do you use a baboon :?:

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Unread postby Salva » Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:31 am

indeed a good question! I guess you first would have to stuff them...
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Unread postby Jumbo » Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:39 am

bucky wrote:How on earth do you use a baboon :?:


On page 52 of this document, CCF, there is a cute picture of a baboon grooming a goat. :D

Apparently the baboon must grow up with the herd in order to bond with it. Even though the baboon can be a good protector, they may become dangerous. Due to their aggressive nature they can be hostile not only to predators and intruders but also to the owners themselves – the baboons will thus protect the herd from everything. :roll:
One farmer also sates that his baboon was not consistently reliable, as when it got bored with the stock, it would come to the farmhouse. :lol:
Page 51 of the same document has more info on the donkeys as guarding animals.

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Unread postby Loams » Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:34 pm

Well, the answer is of course true 8)

donkeys are extremely effective against predators, and in Botswana the biggest culprit is cheetah when it comes to livestock. Remember, most livestock in Botswana is chickens and goats.

Donkeys will easily see off cheetah's and this helps Cheetah Conservation Botswana to preserve wild, free roaming cheetah. Donkeys are introduced at a young age so that they bond with the herd. More than two Donkeys shouldn't be used, other wise they bond with themselves and not the herd. Donkeys has been seen chasing off Lions on occasion. They hate most four legged cat and dog types of animals, and they also apparently love intimidating them. Like some game.

Jacks (Male castrated Donkeys) are a second choice to Jennies (Females) As the Jacks can become aggressive towards lambs and trample them. Jennies are also much more aggresive when they have young off their own, which can then be introduced to another herd as soon as it's weened.

This was exactly the object of this quiz, and I think I achieved it. I want to put questions up that might sound absolutely ridiculous, or is fact, but not well known as to spark debate, and to allow some people to learn something interesting.
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Unread postby Loams » Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:41 pm

Next one :D

If you come across a carcass (Newly killed) and for some reason there is no spoor to identify the killer, there is no way to determine what killed the animal.
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Unread postby madach » Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:02 pm

False

Cause of death can be determined by more things than tracks alone. By analysing a combination of bite marks, method the kill was made and habitat an educated guess can be made of what kind of animal made the kill. If the animal died of sickness then there will probably be tell-tale signs of this sickness. The trick is to observe, and to interpret the clues that you pick up.

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Unread postby arks » Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:06 pm

This is a cool quizz, Loams!!

I agree with madach ... false. Bite marks and other marks on the carcass are clues if there are no tracks (I hadn't thought of the other clues madach posted, but agree with them :) )
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Unread postby Salva » Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:09 pm

yip, false! for the reasons already mentioned!
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