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 Post subject: Re: Butterfly Quiz (RV)
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And my book is not helping me ... :wall: :redface:

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Hint...think courtship.


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That was exactly what I was thinking ... but could not get any info.

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 Post subject: Re: Butterfly Quiz (RV)
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I've got the Afrikaans version of Ivor Migdoll's Field Guide to the Butterflies of Southern Africa, and can't find anything in there either. Not that I know ANYTHING about butterflies... Africat, seems you've got the people here stumped...

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 Post subject: Re: Butterfly Quiz (RV)
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Oh, you are SO-O-O close. Look at Ivor Migdoll's guide, page 20 (Papilionidae), and also for another example of the same phenomenon, page 16 (Danainae).

They are the human equivalents of sachets, atomizers, or spritzing behind the ears and on the nape of the neck before a night out on the town...except in butterflies, it's the MALES who go to all this trouble. (Guys, you could learn something here from the butterflies.)

The "hairs" which I tried to depict are "hair pencils" or androconia which are specialized scent-scales which the males use to disperse powerful perfumes to attract females of their species. These are found in Graphium species as the hairs in the inner folds of the hindwings which I tried to portray, and also in Bicyclus sp. (Satyrinae), and are really noticeable in Danaid sp.
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The female Danaus chrysippus has only 3 black spots on the hindwing,but the male has 4...this 4th and largest is the scent patch . The male danaid needs certain chemicals (pyrrolizidine alkaloids) to synthesize these pheromones, without which, they are dismal failures as Don Juans. These chemicals are obtained from certain particular plants, and groups of Danaids can be found assembled upon these....

Moral of the story, guys, don't forget we females are also attracted by alluring scents. Now go have a great weekend!


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:clap: Interesting! :thumbs_up:

Seems you are still it ... :wink:

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Okay, give me a minute or two, or three.....or fifteen....


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There are X and Y chromosomes, as we all know. What is the configuration of these chromosomes in humans, and what are they in butterflies?


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:wall: :wall: I read about those scent things, but, in the clue that you gave earlier anal fold of the rear wing, I missed the "rear wing" part, so just brushed those aside as they had nothing to do with the anal area... :redface: :redface:

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bishop3006,
perhaps you're "anal-retentive'. Perhaps Meandering Mouse can help you with that.


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AFRICAT wrote:
There are X and Y chromosomes, as we all know. What is the configuration of these chromosomes in humans, and what are they in butterflies?


We're into genetics now? :big_eyes:

You mean the fact that, in humans, males have one Y chromosome and one X chromosome, while females have two X chromosomes? The child gets one Y chromosome from mamma, and the other, either X or Y, from pappa. (Thus, when mommy can't have boys, it is not mommy's fault, but daddy's...)

Flutterby's? Haven't got the foggiest idea! :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: Butterfly Quiz (RV)
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Yes, that's exactly the direction I was going....so anyone know the genetic makeup of flutterbys relative to males and females? It's really pretty interesting....


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