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Re: Advice needed, Camp X to Camp Y

Unread postby MATTHYS » Mon Jul 27, 2015 9:00 pm

Hi and welcome to the forums, hene49.
Info that will help you here and here.
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Re: Advice needed, Camp X to Camp Y

Unread postby Elsa » Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:19 pm

Warm welcome to the forum!

As per the tables Matthys has given, you will see its a little over 250kms which is a long way in the park at the normal low speeds, but if you leave the gate at opening and don't stop much at all it can be done but not really advisable.
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Talamati to Biyamiti

Unread postby bluebird123 » Wed Jul 29, 2015 8:12 pm

We are going from Talamati directly to Biyamiti. I can only guess how long this drive is as it is not in the distances tables. Maybe 200 Km? Is there time to stop for lunch at Skukuza? Thanks!

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Re: Advice needed, Camp X to Camp Y

Unread postby Elsa » Wed Jul 29, 2015 9:31 pm

Warm welcome to the forum Bluebird!

If I take Orpen to Croc Bridge as an example which is 183kms then I would say close to 200 is about right.
You don't say what time of year you are going to be in the park as the camp gates open earlier and close later in the summer months giving one more time to make the distance.
But of course one can't factor in any animal road blocks/special sightings which can add quite a bit of time onto one's trip.
As for lunch at Skukuza, I would say judge it as the trip progresses and make the decision closer to the time.
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Re: Advice needed, Camp X to Camp Y

Unread postby MasaiMara » Wed Jul 29, 2015 11:18 pm

Is it possible to travel from Berg en dal to Mopani in one day? We are booked at the two camps and wondered if we travel through the park or exit and travel from the west side of the park.

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Re: Advice needed, Camp X to Camp Y

Unread postby Elsa » Fri Jul 31, 2015 12:15 pm

Warm welcome to the forum! :clap:

I would usually never advise anyone to travel outside the park but B & D to Mopani is 276 kms which is a very long distance to do inside the park, the map book says can be done in 11 hours which is at 25kph but also not factoring in any stops along the route.
so unless you leave strictly at gate opening and keep the speed up a little bit and not stop too often for sightings/pit stops etc it might be doable but definitely not advisable.
You don't say what time of year it will be as obviously in the summer months there is more time between gate opening and closing than in the winter months.
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Traveling distance in the park - have i bit of more than i can chew

Unread postby shafranz » Tue Aug 04, 2015 3:43 pm

Hi

I am heading to the park soon - I know my first day is long, but is it possible if I don’t mind the drive?

I have to enter at Malelane Gate and my first night is booked at Shimuwini.

As I said, I don’t mind the drive and will be at the gate before it opens, will I make it and how much time do I have to faf around?

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Re: Traveling distance in the park - have i bit of more than i can chew

Unread postby Elsa » Tue Aug 04, 2015 4:29 pm

Warm welcome to the forum! :clap:

From what I have calculated, that distance is around 315 kms and the last 8 kms will be on a dirt road leading to camp.
I would say its too far and quite frankly I will be surprised if they allow you to even enter knowing you have that distance to drive.
I have seen cases where they have refused guests entry if the distance is too great.
You will have no time to "faf" around and you can never anticipate ellie road blocks and you will need other stoppages for pit stops, food etc.
My recommendation would be to either book a night lower down in the park for your first night or drive outside the park to one of the more central gates like Orpen or even Phalaborwa gates.
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Re: Traveling distance in the park - have i bit of more than i can chew

Unread postby bushguy » Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:03 pm

Shafranz , why do you "have to enter at Malelane" ?

And exactly when is "soon" , because it is more doable in Nov than Oct (although entering an outside gate doesn't make much diff!)

In Aug and Sept you have 12 hours , Oct 12,5hrs and Nov/dec 13 hrs

I have the distance as 285 , so lets round it to 300km - ie you would have to average 300/12 = 25 km/hr. To me that sounds imminently doable seeing as the max speed is 50. Not a lot of dilly dally though.

from Croc Bridge it is 20km shorter, so if you could be in there at opening it would be even easier.

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Re: Traveling distance in the park - have i bit of more than i can chew

Unread postby Hippotragus » Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:12 pm

Hi Frans

I'm afraid I have to agree with Elsa. It is a very long way and you might not even be allowed to try it, when you enter at Malelane Gate. I have never attempted such a long distance in one day.

I would either (a) book the first night at somewhere like Satara or Olifants or (b) drive outside the park and enter at Phalaborwa Gate, but even that route would take a long time due to speed restrictions, potholes, slow traffic etc. So a camp midway looks the best option.

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Re: Traveling distance in the park - have i bit of more than i can chew

Unread postby Son godin » Tue Aug 04, 2015 8:45 pm

It's doable if you can start from inside the park. You might be delayed when entering, while you can immediate start if you are already in the park. We did Malelane camp to Mopani in June arriving with a few hours left before sunset. Shimiwini is a longer trip and entering at Croc Bridge will be shorter with no low water single lane bridges to cross. Traffic can be hectic around Skukuza to Tswokwane and best to avoid. Try booking at Lower Sabie or Satara rather or enter at Phalaborwa gate.
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Re: Traveling distance in the park - have i bit of more than i can chew

Unread postby Imberbe » Tue Aug 04, 2015 10:51 pm

It is doable. It will be a long drive though.
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Re: Traveling distance in the park - have i bit of more than i can chew

Unread postby Meandering Mouse » Wed Aug 05, 2015 5:35 am

A very warm welcome shafranz :gflower:

Yes, it is do-able, but will it be enjoyable?

I have found my most tense moments in the Park have been when I am in a hurry. It is just not pleasant. If there is another option, I would strongly recommend it.
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Driving from Punda to Tamboti in one day??

Unread postby Travelstory » Wed Aug 05, 2015 7:44 pm

Hi Mites,
Planning the next trip June 2016 :lol: and already some of the best accommodations are taken. In order to get what we want looks like on one day we will be driving from Punda Maria to Tamboti; 297K's. Has anyone made that journey all in a day? How long did it actually take you?
Thank you in advance.
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Here is the complete itinerary thus far all booked:

2 nights Skukuza - riverside bungalow
3 nights Olifants - perimeter bungalow
3 nights Punda Maria - safari tent
2 nights Tamboti - luxury tent
2 nights Lower Sabie - safari tent perimeter
3 nights Bergandal - perimeter bungalow

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Re: Driving from Punda to Tamboti in one day??

Unread postby Meandering Mouse » Thu Aug 06, 2015 6:00 am

Hi Dana, I have not done this journey myself, but I certainly have seen this question asked before.

You do not have to travel any gravel roads and a lot of the road is through Mopani eco zones. I do find the Mopani stretches of road are easy to do at 50 kilometers/hour.

I would suggest that you use this first stretch to make up a bit of time. Once past the Olifants bridge, you can expect more sightings. With a bit of luck, you could have a few hours in your pocket.

Just watch your time and take care.

I love the sound of your itinerary. :thumbs_up:
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