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 Post subject: Re: S33 Vutomi Road.
Unread postPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:46 am 
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I think in the case of the S33 it was more a case of clearing the road as it had become very overgrown due to the long closure.

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 Post subject: Re: S33 Vutomi Road.
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Elsa wrote:
I think in the case of the S33 it was more a case of clearing the road as it had become very overgrown due to the long closure.


No that our holiday is coming closer and closer :thumbs_up: I would like to know if anyone from Sanparks can tell anything about the S33, the Vutomiroad. By now it is almost 18 months!! that this beautifull road is (but also the S34!!) closed :evil:
I hope Joep or Lesego can tell if this road is closed forever......?? I think it is remarkable that 2 roads in such a rather small area (S33 and S34!!) are stil closed for such a very very long time..... I hope some one from Sanparks can explain what is 'the problem' with those 2 roads.

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 Post subject: Re: S33 Vutomi Road.
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Found this post, not sure if this is still the correct date or not?

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I emailed SANParks about the S33 and S34. The S34 work is scheduled to be completed by 14/06/2013, and the S33 by 31/08/2013.


Last update of 2nd July indicted the S34 still not open but as I said before, there was work being done on the S33 almost a month ago now so will keep fingers crossed it opens in time for your trip Ruud. :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: S33 Vutomi Road.
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I was just wondering, why don't they use a farm implement, what we call a 'skottel eg'? It looks like a skottel that is use for the braai at the picnic sites. It normally has 4 rows of skottels, with the front row at a 30 degree angle to the right and the second row 30 degrees to the left with the other rows the same. It will cut trough, and break up any corrugations, even in winter.

Just a thought from a former plaas boytjie.

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 Post subject: Re: S33 Vutomi Road.
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Rooies wrote:
I was just wondering, why don't they use a farm implement, what we call a 'skottel eg'? It looks like a skottel that is use for the braai at the picnic sites. It normally has 4 rows of skottels, with the front row at a 30 degree angle to the right and the second row 30 degrees to the left with the other rows the same. It will cut trough, and break up any corrugations, even in winter.

Just a thought from a former plaas boytjie.


Great idea - I'm sure there is a way to keep the roads level in winter.

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Found this post, not sure if this is still the correct date or not?

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I emailed SANParks about the S33 and S34. The S34 work is scheduled to be completed by 14/06/2013, and the S33 by 31/08/2013.


Last update of 2nd July indicted the S34 still not open but as I said before, there was work being done on the S33 almost a month ago now so will keep fingers crossed it opens in time for your trip Ruud. :thumbs_up:


Yeah they sent me that update back in May so I'm guessing they are behind, unless the S34 is now open?

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 Post subject: Re: S33 Vutomi Road.
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Rooies wrote:
I was just wondering, why don't they use a farm implement, what we call a 'skottel eg'? It looks like a skottel that is use for the braai at the picnic sites. It normally has 4 rows of skottels, with the front row at a 30 degree angle to the right and the second row 30 degrees to the left with the other rows the same. It will cut trough, and break up any corrugations, even in winter.

Just a thought from a former plaas boytjie.


Not really a good idea Rooies . The gravel roads are constructed by laying down layers of material and compacted . This is called the basecourse and you certainly do not want to plough it up . It is shaped and profiled specifically to allow for water run-off and drainage , etc . Vehicle traffic over it unfortunately does cause corrugations and rain-water also damages it , and as such it regularly needs to be re-graded not only to smooth out the bumps , ridges and channels , but also to scrape back displaced gravel and sand that had been moved and blown to the sides of the roads .

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 Post subject: Re: S33 Vutomi Road.
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Rooies wrote:
I was just wondering, why don't they use a farm implement, what we call a 'skottel eg'? It looks like a skottel that is use for the braai at the picnic sites. It normally has 4 rows of skottels, with the front row at a 30 degree angle to the right and the second row 30 degrees to the left with the other rows the same. It will cut trough, and break up any corrugations, even in winter.

Just a thought from a former plaas boytjie.


Not really a good idea Rooies . The gravel roads are constructed by laying down layers of material and compacted . This is called the basecourse and you certainly do not want to plough it up . It is shaped and profiled specifically to allow for water run-off and drainage , etc . Vehicle traffic over it unfortunately does cause corrugations and rain-water also damages it , and as such it regularly needs to be re-graded not only to smooth out the bumps , ridges and channels , but also to scrape back displaced gravel and sand that had been moved and blown to the sides of the roads .



Ok fair enough - did not know that myself.

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 Post subject: Re: S33 Vutomi Road.
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Graham_5000 wrote:

Yeah they sent me that update back in May so I'm guessing they are behind, unless the S34 is now open?


It was still closed last week when we were there.

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 Post subject: Re: S33 Vutomi Road.
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okie wrote:
Rooies wrote:
I was just wondering, why don't they use a farm implement, what we call a 'skottel eg'? It looks like a skottel that is use for the braai at the picnic sites. It normally has 4 rows of skottels, with the front row at a 30 degree angle to the right and the second row 30 degrees to the left with the other rows the same. It will cut trough, and break up any corrugations, even in winter.

Just a thought from a former plaas boytjie.


Not really a good idea Rooies . The gravel roads are constructed by laying down layers of material and compacted . This is called the basecourse and you certainly do not want to plough it up . It is shaped and profiled specifically to allow for water run-off and drainage , etc . Vehicle traffic over it unfortunately does cause corrugations and rain-water also damages it , and as such it regularly needs to be re-graded not only to smooth out the bumps , ridges and channels , but also to scrape back displaced gravel and sand that had been moved and blown to the sides of the roads .


Ag no man okie, you have bursted my bubble. I thought that I am in line for SANParks's medal of the year for ingenuity and now you are telling me that I may not even be in line for the wooden spoon. But, there must be a simple and efficient way to get rid of the corrugations without resorting to expensive grading and other maintenance.

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 Post subject: Re: S33 Vutomi Road.
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ok.....but when open Vutomi Road ?????

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 Post subject: Re: S33 Vutomi Road.
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As at end July'13 both the S33 and S34 remain closed.

The S34 has some work going on at the Tshokwane end, re-engineering the culverts and river crossing. The western ends of both roads were less obviously being worked on, but there was a big CAT works vehicle heading up the S36 towards that area one morning.

Sadly, there is no info at the ends of the S36 to indicate to unsuspecting tourists that the S33 and S34 are closed; saw some pretty miserable groups on the S36 around those junctions. The poor guy manning the picnic spot looked like he isn't getting many customers. They really need to sort the S36 north of the picnic spot before they re-open the hopefully smooth and delightful all-new S34 and S33, the S36 is in a bad way.


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 Post subject: Re: S33 Vutomi Road.
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good news
next week we go to Vutomi road :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: S33 Vutomi Road.
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NogardGio wrote:
good news
next week we go to Vutomi road :mrgreen:



You're right, that's definately good news!
please report how it was on the S33! Enjoy :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: S33 Vutomi Road.
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Yes NogardGio, hope you have a fantastic trip!! And please do let us know about the S33! Some photo's will be awesome :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: S33 Vutomi Road.
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Hi UKbadger
Is the water trough still working...the one that was next to the dam.

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