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onewithnature
 Post subject: Re: Baby Zebra Drowns
Unread postPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 8:09 pm 
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I think most naturelovers would have reservations about seeing a genuine kill! A missed chance is okay - exciting, adrenaline-pumping; but the quarry must escape! But a real, screaming, agonising, drawn-out killlllllllll ... I think most of us would think twice, although paradoxically be enthralled if it happened. Enthralled, but not happy. :hmz: :hmz:

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When you see a major kill, it is quite surreal, and ours have been over in seconds.

It is an adrenalin rush.

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The only kill I have ever seen. was a leopard catching a baby warthog and it really was a surreal experience. Even so, after 50 years I can still hear the baby screaming and see the mother charging the leopard! I don't know if I ever want to see it again.

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 Post subject: Re: Baby Zebra Drowns
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WOW, you're privileged, Bushmom! :clap: :clap: But, as you say, the baby screams and mother risking her life to save the baby must have been heartsore.

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 Post subject: Re: Baby Zebra Drowns
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Danie wrote:
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Oh Wild Dreamer... that just about made me cry again! :cry:

Little zebbie has now been taken out of the water, and I was wondering - it it's not too much trouble - if it is possible (Danie or SANParks staff) to find out why the zebra was removed rather than left in the water :huh:

Despite me getting RIDICULOUSLY sad over this (really, it IS silly of me being so soft :wall: ) - I have found this thread and this whole event SO interesting, and I have learnt SO MUCH from what everyone has written. It would be really wonderful to find out the rest of the story :D


Hi Melrockson

I have contacted our Section Ranger: Kingfisherspruit (Orpen is part of his section) to provide a bit more insight into this. I have e-mailed him as I could not reach him telephonically - he must be out where there is no cellphone reception. As soon as he responds, I'll post it here.

Melrockson and other forum members have asked why the zebra foal was removed from the waterhole.

Here is the reponse from the Section Ranger: Kingfisherspruit on this issue via e-mail to me:
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Hi Danie,
I was away this weekend. Sorry for the late reply.
The zebra was removed from the waterhole to prevent contamination of the water that the rest of the game in the area require.
If it had been left there either it would have rotted and contaminated the water or a hyena might have taken a chance and retrieved it.

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Richard Sowry
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Thanks Richard, thanks Danie!!! :thumbs_up:

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Thanks Danie & Richard :thumbs_up:

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BB, I can't remember the last time you were serious, Si-ri-uss! :twisted: :twisted: You've got a good point there, but most people are blissfully unaware of the, sometimes, harsh reality of nature! To see it firsthand, so to speak, can be shocking to the senses of some and to the "anti-death" nature of others. We all cheer for a kill, but when it happens, it is less exciting because of the knowing that a life has just ended. As Paul Newman said when he finally won his first Oscar after many nomination: "It's like chasing a beautiful woman for 80 years. Finally, she relents and you say, 'I'm terribly sorry. I'm tired'".
It's like that with a kill, or similar; when you see it in reality, the actual experience is different from the imagined one.
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I have seen enough wildlife documentaries to understand that the loss of one life will be the sustainance of another (maybe more than one). So seeing this, while it was sad for the baby zeb and mom, was a very interesting event.

As BB put it, this happens every day in the bush and we never witness it at all. Perhaps that is why there was so much emotion involved. If we saw this every day, we would be desensitised and it would mean nothing.

I though of very little else the whole of Friday night and was very sorry I do not have home internet.

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 Post subject: Re: Baby Zebra Drowns
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The Question of removing a Zebra is intresting, even with the Argumentation of the Ranger it doesn´t make much sense. If you have a natural waterhole, it will do the same contamination, but nature can deal with it, so why is it in a man made whole so dangerous?

Anyway great topic

and great thanks to the Rangers who give us alot of information. Thank you!

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 Post subject: Re: Baby Zebra Drowns
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Interesting Q, Malealea. Would be interesting to find out the answer. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that the waterhole is so small, and therefore contamination could be swift; whereas, in nature, drinking places tend to be larger and also there are many more of them?

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 Post subject: Re: Baby Zebra Drowns
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That is an interesting question, my theory, the flow of water in natural waterholes, and in man made there is no natural flow.

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 Post subject: Re: Baby Zebra Drowns
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I know it might have been answered but what happen of the zebra any pics.

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Here they are Louis orpen cam for april

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Ok we assume that the cause can be of the lack of water exchange. might be but then I will ask the question if this is possibel to increase the excahnge. In my oppnion in a National Park should be no human interactions. but this oner is a quite heavy interference in my oppinion. I doubt that the Ranger know what they are doing, but it is not wrng to change the view sometimes ;-)

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 Post subject: Re: Baby Zebra Drowns
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