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Bateleur name change??

Unread postby Dupacc » Mon Apr 22, 2013 1:45 pm

I just saw a photo of a Bateleur on the KNP Facebook page, and with it, it is indicated that the Bateleur is now called the "Short Tailed Eagle" (Afrikaans: Kortstert Arend). Any additional info? :roll: :roll: Why change? :hmz: :hmz:
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Re: Bateleur name change??

Unread postby kite » Mon Apr 22, 2013 1:47 pm

Maybe just a direct translation from Afrikaans.

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Re: Bateleur name change??

Unread postby Bush Baptist » Mon Apr 22, 2013 1:48 pm

AFAIR, this was mooted years ago but not implemented.

IMHO it is a stupid name, because a bateleur is classed as a snake eagle.
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Re: Bateleur name change??

Unread postby Bush Baptist » Mon Apr 22, 2013 1:53 pm

Afrikaans for bateleur is berghaan, which is curious enough itself.
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Re: Bateleur name change??

Unread postby Rooies » Mon Apr 22, 2013 1:59 pm

My question is still, why change the names in the first place. We have grown up with the same names but then a group of small individuals decide to change the name. Bateleur is such a descriptive word, so why change it to "kortstert" something?
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Re: Bateleur name change??

Unread postby wildtuinman » Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:07 pm

Nope, as far as I know and can ascertain from my resources, a Bateleur is very much still a Bateleur and will remain as such until otherwise announced here.

http://www.worldbirdnames.org/

Why are bird names changed?

Answer: http://www.worldbirdnames.org/english-names/
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Re: Bateleur name change??

Unread postby Trevor Hardaker » Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:31 am

As a member of the South African List Committee that, amongst other things, decides on the common names of birds to be included on the list, I can confirm that Bateleur is still very much Bateleur and there is no intention whatsoever to ever consider changing its name.

Whomever used the name "Short-tailed Eagle" was just making things up as there has never been any serious consideration to adopt that name...

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Re: Bateleur name change??

Unread postby RosemaryH » Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:35 am

:thumbs_up: Thanks for the confirmation Trevor :D
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Re: Bateleur name change??

Unread postby Bush Baptist » Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:47 am

Thanks Trevor. :thumbs_up:

Rumour quashed!
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Re: Bateleur name change??

Unread postby Dupacc » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:11 am

Thanks Trevor! :thumbs_up: :thumbs_up:

(I quoted you in a reply I posted on Facebook, indicating that the name has not changed)
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