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 Post subject: Scrub-Robin: Karoo
Unread postPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:58 am 
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Here's another confusing one! :? I saw these two birds in WCNP on 16 October 2007. I'm pretty sure that the one on the right is a Karoo robin, but the one on the left has me stymied!

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The bird on the left looks quite similar to the one on the right — except for that rufous tail! My first guess would be neddicky, but it has dark legs and it's too large. So my next guess is perhaps familiar chat — except for the eyebrow .... ? Can anyone help me with this one?

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Looks pretty god for Karoo Scrub-Robin to me. I wouldn't worry too much about the appearance of a rufous tail. The lighting on the bird is mostly from behind and there are even some blown out highlights on the tail. You can always expect colour anomalies when photographing a bird in such light.

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Thanks, deefstes, glad to know about light causing such confusing variations :roll: I certainly thought that it "ought" to be just another Karoo robin. Sometimes reviewing my photos closely (well) after the sighting begins to raise too many questions :wink: :D

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Stumped again! :wall: At first I'd thought that this was a lark or a pipit (partly because I first saw it on the ground), but it lacks a stripey breast and it has dark legs. So then I thought perhaps a prinia, but again, the dark legs, so now I'm wondering ... :hmz: Only other guess might be Cape grassbird? See in West Coast NP, 3 December 2008.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Sorry arks, no time to check books and say something semi-intelligent about this bird. But it looks like a Karoo Scrub-Robin. Waddayathink?


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Sorry arks, no time to check books and say something semi-intelligent about this bird. But it looks like a Karoo Scrub-Robin. Waddayathink?

Thanks, Joel! I knew that I was missing something obvious. :wall: :doh:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Pleasure arks :thumbs_up: Definately Karoo Scrub-robin...need to get to the Western Cape and do some birding...sooo many lifers!!! :D

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Another one that's got me stumped. I think it's a chat, but which one? :? Perhaps sicklewinged or Karoo?? Seen at WCNP on 28 September 2009.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Hi again arks,

The long tail, short wings and eyestripe make this look more like Karoo Scrub-robin from this pic. Did you see the underparts - ie were they greyish brown, or white? Also, were there any white tips to the tail feathers?

Hope I'm right with this one - I'm practicing my SA bird ID's for a trip sometime next year.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Karoo Scrub Robin :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Thanks barcud and RJ, I should have thought of robins :redface:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Here's two more that are puzzling me, both seen at WCNP on 28 September 2009 (and far away, so poor quality pix :( )

this one perhaps a familiar chat?
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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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The second - how familiar are you with Familiar Chat? It is either that or Karoo Scrub-Robin - but I can't really tell.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Thanks, Hanno. And I think your suggestion of Karoo robin is more likely (I'd not thought of that :redface: ), as I've seen them before in WCNP and never seen the chat there. Many thanks for your help!!

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