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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
Unread postPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:26 am 
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Last week we saw this very pale Lark on the Pans near Nata in Botswana. We have our own idea of what it is, but thought ti to be an interesting one for you guys to comment on:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Having no refrences, and no idea :lol: My first thoughts were a pale Rufous Naped Lark.....Will have to check up on that later though!

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Maybe Mirafra fasciolata kalaharica Eastern Clapper Lark? :hmz:


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Bill size, grey upperparts and pale underparts...and oh yeah Nata pans! NE Botswana Race of Eastern Clapper Lark
Mirafra fasciolata nata :tongue:


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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:mrgreen: Funny but true! nata being one of the 3 subspecies of ECL! 8)


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 Post subject: Lark, Eastern Clapper
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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Some more larks that I'm not 100% sure about ... I think that all three of these are rufous-naped larks? All seen at Mokala in late October 2012.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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1 and 3 look like Eastern Clapper to me.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Thanks Matt, but I remain a bit confused :hmz: What precisely are the differences between the Eastern clapper lark and the rufous-naped lark -- because all three of these look pretty much alike to me :wall: -- whereas the drawings of these two larks in my Newmans look somewhat different from each other ... :hmz: I'd thought that what would appear (to me) to be a rufous crest/crown on all three of these birds were what made them all seem (to me) to 'fit' as rufous-naped for me :wall: :hmz:


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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arks, sorry it's taken me so long to respond, I've been quite busy in the past few days. It's quite tough to describe the differences, they become much more obvious once you see them both out in the field. Two features I can point out here are that Rufous-naped has a more scaled appearance on the back, whereas E Clapper is more mottled on the back. Another one is that E Clapper is more uniformly coloured, and is rufous on the back and underneath, whereas Rufous-naped is usually a more two-toned bird that's lighter underneath. Hope that helps a bit.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Thanks Matt, it does help a bit. I do know that there were lots of clapper larks about when I was visiting Mokala, because they were doing that amazing wing-clapping thing, so I heard them more often than I saw them -- or so I thought :hmz: In fact, it rather surprises me that some of my (many) lark photos should turn out to be of clapper larks, since I had the sense that they never stayed still long enough for pix. However, looking through more of my photos, I can clearly see that some of my larks have a more uniformly russet breast, while others have a lighter, buff-toned breast .... Thanks for giving me these criteria to help me with sorting out which are which :thumbs_up:


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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And another LBJ - this one was taken up on the plateau - rooiplaats loop - of Mountain Zebra NP. As far as I remember it was alone, and definitely not more than 15cm. I was wondering if it could be one of the smaller larks, or a widow female?? Sorry for the possibly way out suggestions - I am very new to LBJs!!

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Hi Lemonbalm, it is a Lark yes, and to me it looks good for Eastern Clapper Lark.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Thanks DotDan! :thumbs_up:

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