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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
Unread postPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 9:33 am 
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All three of those look like Yellow-billed Kite to me, and all three of them in some stage of moult.

*EDIT* Again JvR beat me to it and again, I wasn't informed that another post had been made when I submitted mine :hmz:. Anyone knows when that message is displayed and when not?

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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@JvR and Deefstes

Thanks so much for the yellow billed kite ident.

I think you were still speaking English to me JvR! :wink:

Deefstes - Thanks for the double quick confirmation!!


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Need help with this one please, as I don't have ANY of my resources with me... Found it to quite intriguing. Seen at Kgomo-kgomo on 21 Feb 09:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Hi Moegaai. All the right features for a Steppe Buzzard, I would say.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Thanks Joel. That's what I thought it was, but was hoping it's NOT!!! What made me question this one was that I expected to see white on the underwing. I know Steppe's are highly variable, but I've always seen the white underwings... Also didn't see any hint of a lighter chest, but again they are so variable that this aspect is also just a rule of thumb.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Moegaai wrote:
...but was hoping it's NOT!!!

Trying to give the poor buzzard a you-don't-matter complex? :naughty:


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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:lol: :twisted:

Well, seeing as there's one on every second post along the roads, leaving you uncertain if you should even bother to stop for a BOP!!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Hi Moegaai ,

I disagree with steppe buzzard. To me , the bird on your pics are a pretty typical black kite of the nominate race migrans.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Sorry Moegaai, JOL is right. I made the same mistake somewhere else on the forum. A temporary Kite vs. Buzzard lapse. :redface:


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Although the Steppe does have colour variations they tend to have more variation on a single bird than the Kites. The tail is also a very good indicator - not only in shape but my impression (which is subjective :D ) is that kites are more often ragged than Steppe Buzzards.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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JoelR wrote:
Sorry Moegaai, JOL is right. I made the same mistake somewhere else on the forum. A temporary Kite vs. Buzzard lapse. :redface:


Thanks JOL for correcting the ID, and don't worry Joel, I made the mistake myself!!! Just shows I shouldn't jump to conclusions before doing some research. And this is really such a simple one, isn't it!? What threw me was the streaking on the underbody (but present in some YBK's) along with the wing and tail barring (always present in all YBK's!), but the long, fanned tail really made it a no-brainer! :redface:

So we constantly learn during all walks of our birding life!


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Thanks to everyone for the help so far :)

Here are some raptors taken on the H9 when a very large number were arriving at a quelea site! I think I have a steppe buzzard and a yellowbilled kite.

Confirmation or other ideas gratefully received!

Some other views are in my trip report just posted.

Richard

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Hi Richard

These two look like Yellow billed Kites, the left is a Juvenile and the right an adult.

Cheers

Niall.


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Please would you help me identify this bird.

Is this a yellow-billed kite?
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Thanks in advance.


Last edited by Astazou on Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:11 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Hi Astazou and Welcome!

You don't mention where and when you saw these birds, which always helps when requesting ID. If you can supply that info, it will help with the ID.

This is indeed a yellowbilled kite.

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