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It is a documented field mark of immature Bateleur to have a longer tail than the adults and that the feet does not protrude beyond the tail in flight.



Also, the wing shape is a dead giveaway, as you rightly pointed out BT. Those very rounded trailing edges are unlike the wings of any other raptor.

I also agree with the second bird being Wahlberg's Eagle.

Welcome and really great pics, BT!

Does seem to be juvbat! (Juvenile Bateleur).

They can be a bit confusing, though!

Hi bird experts ! Please can you identify these 2 for me ?

Seen at the waterhole 3 km north of Shing

I am not one of the experts....

Pretty sure though that is a Juvenile Bateleur.

Katy

Help seen on H4-1 just before S21 LS side.

Help please?

Putting my money on a juvenile Bateleur.

(grey-green make-up and a short tail, also often seen on the ground)

Please help...I saw these 2 at Shitlhave Dam in July 2007..are they brown snake eagles or juvenile bataleurs? I can see white legs, but the brown on the wings got me puzzled.

What is it about the brown on the wings that bothers you? They look pretty good for juvie Bateleur to me.

On our last day in the Park we came across this carcass in the tree.....the white legs and beak got me confused...once again I think its a bearded vulture, but they dont appear in Kruger....someone said its an eagle...please help.

I would say juv Bateleur - they do scavenge, and colour of face and beak points to Bateleur.

Cheers

Niall.

I'd agree with Niall. Plus the unfeathered legs also being a good pointer.

Excellent sighting thou, MGoddard!!

Best recent sighting was of a pair on the S25.

I was very lucky to see this adult land right in front of us in the road picking up a small snake....





And this juvenile (sub adult) the next day on an impala kill

The adult in the first pic, MGoddard is a male. The female shows a broad light/white bar a little bit further down on the wing in sitting position.

In flight the male will show a broad black bar at the trailing edge of the under wing. The female has a much more narrow black trailing edge.