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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
Unread postPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:23 pm 
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Hi

This - there were 2 raptors on different branches of a tree. The other was easily identifiable as a juv bateleur with the typical blue- greyish colour on the face, but this one did not have that colour. But still it did look similar in appearance to a juv bateleur. Any ideas pl??

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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This one is the right shape but wrong colouring. The giss (general impression of shape and size) is right for juvenilie Bateleur, but the yellow beak confuses me.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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@ Sundeep

I would agree on a Juvenile Bateleur.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Thanks Ross. What makes you go for the juv bateleur?? Have you seen one with such a prominent yellow beak before??

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Hi Sandeep

You do get juvenile Bateleurs with that colour beak, But looking at it again, with the yellow beak and bare yellow legs, it could be a juvenile African Harrier-hawk.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
Unread postPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:44 pm 
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Hi Sandeep

The body shape of the bird points towards Bateleur, sorry can't explain too well but just seen many Bateleur to know the distinct look of the species :)

The Body is a lot "fatter" for use of a better word than the African Hawk Eagle which would be a lot more slender


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
Unread postPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:00 am 
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Hi Sandeep

This one is a juvenile Bateleur. Bateleurs start changing their beak, legs and feet to the red of the adults while still in their juvenile plumage. This one is in that transition, hence the yellowish/orange colour.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Thanks Ross, Matt, Wildwings and all who commented. Just including another pic in case it reaffirms your views or changes them.



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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Thanks, friends.
In my bird guide, the drawing of the Hooded Vulture is a bad one, it would be impossible to figure out.

What would you say, now, of these flying eagles. Are they Bateleurs? Also seen in the Morning Walk at Orpen.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Hi friends,

Indeed, Image Shack became tricky... it was not... Does anyone suggest an alternative?

As some can see my pics, what about those flying eagles...? Are they Bateleurs?


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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I need binoculars just to see them :lol: Maybe one of the profs who can ID a bird from the tip of a feather can help you :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Hi Micetta,
It is true. They were far away... well, let's see... Just an attempt...

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Charbel, can't you CROP you pix so that the bird's image is larger? Impossible to ID from such a small image.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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charbel wrote:
Hi friends,

Indeed, Image Shack became tricky... it was not... Does anyone suggest an alternative?

As some can see my pics, what about those flying eagles...? Are they Bateleurs?


Cheers
Charbel


Hi Charbel

Yup Bateleur. The wing shape is a dead give away.

Strange, but on my phone I can see your pics but on the laptop no luck.

Ross


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 Post subject: Re: a few bird pics from our latest KP trip
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Bateleur with Forked Tail Drongo

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