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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby Johan van Rensburg » Wed Feb 18, 2015 6:59 pm

arks wrote:So is it then yet another common greenshank ... or something else that I've not recognised? :wall:

Yet another...
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby arks » Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:57 pm

Oh well .... :whistle: I promise you that I actually have IDed a few of those greenshanks without first posting them here, but every once in a while a photo looks a bit different and I keep hoping :wall: :| One day ...... Thanks for being so patient with my seemingly endless mis-IDs :redface:
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby arks » Sun Mar 08, 2015 4:53 am

This one has me stumped! :wall: I first thought it might be a female or nonbreeding male southern masked weaver, but am wondering about the apparent slight eye ring and the dark bill ... I then thought that perhaps it's a juvenile bokmakierie, but it seems quite a bit too small, since it's similar in size to the Cape sparrow it was next to ... So I'm stymied :hmz: Seen along Darling Hills Road in late November 2014.

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby Tokmino » Mon Mar 09, 2015 2:17 am

I saw this bird in the riverbed in front of Skukuza on August 6th, 2014 at 3pm. I thought it might be a lapwing of some kind but there is none in my book that looks like this.
Sorry about the quality of the photos but it was very far away and I have blown them up to try to get a better idea of the bird.

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Unread postby anne-marie » Mon Mar 09, 2015 9:20 pm

Could be a juv Blacksmith Lapwing :hmz:
but the eyes.... :?
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Unread postby hilda » Tue Mar 10, 2015 5:48 am

anne-marie wrote:Could be a juv Blacksmith Lapwing
but the eyes....


Could it perhaps be a hybrid between a Blacksmith and White-crowned Lapwing? Examples and great discussions here: Strange Kruger Lapwing?
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby Tokmino » Tue Mar 10, 2015 4:36 pm

hilda wrote:
anne-marie wrote:Could be a juv Blacksmith Lapwing
but the eyes....


Could it perhaps be a hybrid between a Blacksmith and White-crowned Lapwing? Examples and great discussions here: Strange Kruger Lapwing?


Anne Marie and Hilda - I didn't realise there was cross breeding amongst the birds but having read the topic Strange Kruger Lapwing, I believe this could be the offspring of one such pairing. I have put it up on that topic to see what others think.
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby anne-marie » Tue Mar 10, 2015 7:27 pm

very interesting indeed :thumbs_up:
I hesitated between the two :wink:
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby Tokmino » Fri Mar 13, 2015 4:21 am

It appears to be a hybrid but showing more the black-smith genes than the white-crowned. All the others photographed have been the other way around - more white-crowned than black-smith.
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby Tokmino » Fri Mar 13, 2015 4:24 am

Is this a Racket-tailed Roller during moult when its spatulate tips can be missing? Why I think it may be a racket-tailed and not a European is because of the green on its nape.

It was taken in January near Pafuri.

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Unread postby Johan van Rensburg » Fri Mar 13, 2015 6:47 am

It's Euro... That brown bit you can see on the leading edge of the wing would be dark purple in RTR.
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby arks » Fri Mar 13, 2015 2:43 pm

Anyone? :pray:
arks wrote:This one has me stumped! :wall: I first thought it might be a female or nonbreeding male southern masked weaver, but am wondering about the apparent slight eye ring and the dark bill ... I then thought that perhaps it's a juvenile bokmakierie, but it seems quite a bit too small, since it's similar in size to the Cape sparrow it was next to ... So I'm stymied :hmz: Seen along Darling Hills Road in late November 2014.

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby Tokmino » Fri Mar 13, 2015 3:11 pm

Johan van Rensburg wrote:It's Euro... That brown bit you can see on the leading edge of the wing would be dark purple in RTR.


Thanks, Johan. I was hoping it was a RTR as it would be a lifer for me. :(
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby Karin Mitton » Tue Mar 17, 2015 2:42 pm

Pic taken int he Karoo National Park. I am sure tis may be somethign simple and common, but for the life of me I cannot confirm an ID.
Any suggestions / pointers where to look will be much appreciated.

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby Karin Mitton » Tue Mar 17, 2015 2:45 pm

arks wrote:Anyone? :pray:
arks wrote:This one has me stumped! :wall: I first thought it might be a female or nonbreeding male southern masked weaver, but am wondering about the apparent slight eye ring and the dark bill ... I then thought that perhaps it's a juvenile bokmakierie, but it seems quite a bit too small, since it's similar in size to the Cape sparrow it was next to ... So I'm stymied :hmz: Seen along Darling Hills Road in late November 2014.

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I have similar photos that I have filed in file 13 as female weaver of some sort. If you can get a better sugegstion, it would help me to!


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