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 Post subject: Thrush, Short-toed rock
Unread postPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 12:28 pm 
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Now unless I am very wrong this is the Short-toed rock thrush (Monticola brevipes).
And if I'm wrong I guess I need to edit the title....

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Sorry for the quality, it's a crop...

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 Post subject: Re: Thrush, Short-toed rock
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Don't have to change titles, DQ. We can even add that is one is a female!
(wondering why I'm seeing double...)

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Hello all :D
I saw this bird (which I think is a Short-toed Rock-Thrush?) in Mountain Zebra National Park. Can someone confirm this for me please? (Sorry about the quality of the pics, it was far away and the pics are cropped!)

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Thanks Lizet!! :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: Thrush, Short-toed rock
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Taken in the Pilanesberg in June 2010.

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 Post subject: Re: Thrush, Short-toed rock
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Nice shot Flutterby. I have a few taken yesterday and on Saturday in Pilanesberg I need to sort and upload.

How similar is this bird to a female Mocking Cliff-chat? How likely are they to be confused?

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 Post subject: Re: Thrush, Short-toed rock
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Hi Josh,

The female Mocking Cliff-Chat has a very dark grey (almost black) head and chest, while the Thrush is a grey-blue. Not easily confused - I don't think. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Thrush, Short-toed rock
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That's what I thought too. Pretty sure then that what I saw was the Rock-thrush. I guess if I saw them together they'd be quite different.

I ticked this bird last year, but I saw some Cliff-chats at Mlondozi a few weeks ago, and so I hesitated to confirm the birds I saw this weekend as Rock-thrushes. My mind is at ease now.

I managed to get some good shots this weekend, will post later

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 Post subject: Re: Thrush, Short-toed rock
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Looking forward to seeing your pics.

Have a look at the Bird Pics site (www.birdpics.co.za) - it's a great site for identifying & confirming your identifications. Click on 'Photos' and then choose the family you want.

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 Post subject: Re: Thrush, Short-toed rock
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Great link, thanks.
The birds are similar. Besides colour, the other major difference is where the colour changes. On the Cliff-chat its on the breast, whereas on the Rock-thrush its just below the throat.

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 Post subject: Re: Thrush, Short-toed rock
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Yep, that too! :D

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Hi Guinea Pig,
It looks like a Short-toed Rock-thrush female Monticola brevipes
.... but the bill seems to be a bit too long (?)
amazing !
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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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I agree with you yvo on Short Toed Rock-thrush. Looking at pics o the bird in the guide the bill looks right


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