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Re: Bustard: Ludwig’s Bustard

Unread postby Bush Baptist » Wed Mar 25, 2009 9:53 pm

Hay Caracal,

Guess what.

I am doing some serious cleaning out of documents & papers, and guess what? I came across our animal & bird list for our first Kgalagadi trip in 2000, and on the first afternoon, we recorded a Ludwig's Bustard. I remember now, it was the only one and all the other bustards were Koris.

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby Cherries » Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:23 pm

There were a pair in Addo Elephant Park but so so far away! I took some photos with the 500mm lens but they are really bad. Definitely very large and hoping that it is a Ludwig's Bustard. Unfortunately the Parks Board would have been very upset if I had made my own road through the veld to be closer! :wink:

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby francoisd » Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:44 pm

Cherries it sure looks like Ludwig's Bustard
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby Cherries » Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:01 pm

Thanks Francois! :thumbs_up:
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Addo bustard

Unread postby Pedroinspain » Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:48 pm

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This lone bird was seen in mid-December 2010 on the 'savannah' of the Nzipondo loop (plz excuse the quality - the bird was very far away), striding across the veld. It was the only bustard that we saw in two days. I see from the SABAP2 cards that Denham's is reported 20% of the time and Ludwig's only 0.3% (one ID). Nonetheless, I, with the help of Frans van Vuuren, have tentatively chosen female Ludwig's bustard as the ID.

One reason is that the lack of substantial white on the wing would normally suggest that it is Ludwig's, but I note a comment in Sasol3 that in both birds the amount is variable. Looking at http://www.arkive.org/, the white on Ludwig's seems to be an even speckling. My Addo bird has a least some suspect blotches. Another issue is that Ludwig's is not supposed to have any white on the crown, and (grotty photo quality acknowledged) this one has vestiges of a white crown in both images - making Ludwig's also less likely than Denham's.

To complicate matters even further, there is the distinct pearl-grey on the rear upper-neck that neither is supposed to have.

Yet the lack of convincing white on the wing, the relatively dark and featureless face other than for the eye "ring", and the relatively dark-seeming front of neck makes me still choose a female Ludwig's bustard over Denham's

Any additional discussion would be most welcome.

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Re: Addo bustard

Unread postby o-dog » Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:25 pm

Hey PedroinSpain :thumbs_up:

Interesting :hmz: ...the bird looks like Ludwig's as you say especially because of the seeming absence of large black and white areas on the folded wing but the confusing thing is what seems to be the white on the crown, again as you mention. I am really confused. Eagerly await the outcome of this one...

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Re: Addo bustard

Unread postby Pedroinspain » Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:05 pm

Most humble apologies for having posted in the wrong section of the forum. Don't quite know what happened.
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Re: Addo bustard

Unread postby Cherries » Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:58 pm

Hi Pedroinspain

Under the Bird ID thread - general on Page 86 I posted an equally bad photo. I thought Ludwig's due to distribution.

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Re: Addo bustard

Unread postby Pedroinspain » Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:28 pm

Thank you very much Cherries. I see a white wing blotch (wind parting?) that exceeds a mere speckle on your bird also. Yet that face seems more patterned than it should be. Nonetheless I suspect that we have to go for Ludwig's and conclude that it is more common in Addo than SABAP2 suggests.

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Re: Bustard: Ludwig’s Bustard

Unread postby Guinea Pig » Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:00 am

This bird seems to be very difficult to get good shots of. We were unlucky that we found it JUST as the sun was up properly over the Nossob riverbed. Had to make do with what we got.

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby Gilbertr14 » Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:01 pm

Hello Guys

Just came back from Tankwa, and got a few unknowns to tick off

Ludwicks
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby anne-marie » Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:46 pm

I can confirm Ludwig's Bustard

sorry only the easy ones :lol:
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby Gilbertr14 » Sun Dec 29, 2013 9:33 am

anne-marie wrote:I can confirm Ludwig's Bustard

sorry only the easy ones :lol:


Thanks

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby adrianp » Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:15 pm

A few confirmations below in red

[quote="Gilbertr14"]Hello Guys

Just came back from Tankwa, and got a few unknowns to tick off

Ludwicks correct
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ID please

Unread postby patries » Sun Nov 09, 2014 3:26 pm

we saw this bird a few weeks a go in the KTP.

first we thought is was a Kori Bustard, but after looking with the bino we saw this...

Can anybody Id this bird.

as big as a kori bustard but more color....

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