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Unread postby Jock » Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:24 am

It would appear these little birds are out to confuse us, thanks for clearing that up Cois and WTM.
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Unread postby Yolandé Oelsen » Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:22 am

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby arks » Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:59 pm

I saw these two birds together in a tree near the river at Shimuwini. I thought at first that the dark one was a black flycatcher, as there were many in the camp, but upon closer inspection (as I cropped the pix :) ), I see that this bird has pale underparts, so perhaps an ashy flycatcher? My best guess for the second one is familiar chat?

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby arks » Tue Feb 24, 2009 4:11 pm

Did my posting of these two birds get overlooked? Or are they simply impossible to ID from these not very good and highly cropped photos? :wink: :D
arks wrote:I saw these two birds together in a tree near the river at Shimuwini. I thought at first that the dark one was a black flycatcher, as there were many in the camp, but upon closer inspection (as I cropped the pix :) ), I see that this bird has pale underparts, so perhaps an ashy flycatcher? My best guess for the second one is familiar chat?

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby JoelR » Tue Feb 24, 2009 4:32 pm

I am considering calling them both Ashy Flycatchers. The top one (on the first pic) seems to have a white eyering, the seemingly yellowish belly must be some funny light... :? The other one looks like an ever better candidate with its greyish back... Tricky stuff though.

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby arks » Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:54 am

JoelR wrote:I am considering calling them both Ashy Flycatchers. The top one (on the first pic) seems to have a white eyering, the seemingly yellowish belly must be some funny light... :? The other one looks like an ever better candidate with its greyish back... Tricky stuff though.

Interesting, Joel. To my eye (and memory, distant tho that now is!) the darker one (with its back to us) has a clear white belly (what you can see of it), while the other one is to my eye much more beige than grey? That's why I'd thought that they would be two different sorts :?
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Unread postby Cherries » Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:15 pm

Latest from Martie!! If you are unsure ask Frank he has identified for Martie but poor girl didn't write them down!!

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Unread postby JenB » Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:18 pm

Cherries, thanx for posting for Martie! :dance: :dance:
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby Batmad » Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:15 am

i am going to have to come back to you on the flycatcher :wink:
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby DinkyBird » Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:42 am

Frank has shown me a wattle-eyed flycatcher (do I remember correctly ... is there such a bird) so that might be hint for the flycatcher?
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby Batmad » Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:58 am

And the flycather i am going to go with Grey Tit flycacther (Myioparus plumbeus)

you can distinguish this bird from a very simialar one the Ashy Flaycather which has a white eye ring and a black loral spot. This bird clearly has no eye ring and looks to be like there is no loral spot.

the Grey tit flycatcher has a white eybrow, no loral spot and no white eye ring.
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby Batmad » Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:02 am

DB- The Wattle eyed flycatcher in both sexes have a bright red wattle above both eyes. The Female has a black upper breast and the male a black bar along the breast. They also have deffinate white underparts and a blackish sort of colour for the upperparts.

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby DinkyBird » Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:12 am

Oh! Ok :D Thanks Batmad :clap: (I am at my office, and promise if I could have checked in my bird book first I would have.)
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby Batmad » Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:19 am

No worries DB 8)
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby Johann » Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:21 am

1. There's always 1 or 2 Ashy Flycatchers around at Pafuri picnic site. Not easy to differentiate between Ashy and Grey-Tit, especially on this small photo but I did lighten the pic a bit and one can see the black lores and I can't see any white edges on the tail. So Ashy Flycatcher is my call.

@DB: Martie's 4th bird photo on Day 78 shows the Wattle-eye :tongue:
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