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 Post subject: Identification Help - General Birds
Unread postPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 5:23 pm 
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Hi,
please help me with the following birds. All taken on Welgevonden Private Game Reserve, adjoining Marakele NP, last weekend.

Tree Pipit?
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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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joshilewis wrote:
Hi,
please help me with the following birds. All taken on Welgevonden Private Game Reserve, adjoining Marakele NP, last weekend.

Tree Pipit?
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Hi joshilewis,

Nice pictures and nice birds you've got there.

You third bird, while not as special as Tree Pipit, is still a pretty special little bird. It's a Bushveld Pipit which you can tell from the white (or very pale cream) eye ring, relatively plain face, and bold but diffuse streaking. While your picture doesn't quite show it all that well, you might have noticed in the field that they are well streaked on the back and even on the head as well.

Tree Pipit would also have shown bold streaking but much neater and extending onto the flanks. Also, the facial markings of Tree Pipit would have been more pronounced.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Thanks for the assistance and compliments deefstes.

I should have some other photos of the pipit, showing its back. I'll have a look. I'll have to double check I didn't add Tree Pipit to my list prematurely.

Thanks again for the tips

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
Unread postPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 1:03 pm 
I’ve been scratching my head over the following birdie. :roll: (seen in Marakele this past weekend)
Most of its features, for me, points to Bushevld Pipit …including the white eye ring.
The only thing that bothers me is that I cannot really see white on the outer tail feathers. :?
Pleeease help :pray:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Well the only other pipits it can be confused with is either Tree Pipit (Rare summer visitor), Short Tailed Pipit (out of range) and African Pipit.

In this case I would say I tend to agree with Bushveld Pipit, but hell that is some rather heavy streaking on the chest


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
Unread postPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:18 am 
Thanks DD :D
I looked at the 3 other birds you mentioned.
Tree Pipit…ja, I wish :pray: :lol:
But this bird did not have distinct malar stripes. Its bill also seems to be longer that that of a Tree Pipit.
I also looked at the Stripped Pipit…but the streaking does not go down far enough
Short-tailed Pipit would have been a good alternative had it not been, as you also mention, for the range.
African Pipit: This bird does not have the bold facial markings (including eyebrow) of an African Pipit and on my pics I can clearly see the base of the bill is pinkish, not yellow…so this excludes Afican Pipit for me.

I’ve notice that the pic of a Bushveld Pipit on Birdpics does not show heavy streaking on the breast. However, all the pics on Roberts Online (love it!! 8) ) show quite distinctive streaking…but the white outer tail is also quite visible…and this I cannot really see on my pix. :? But looking at all the other features that fit in with Bushveld Pipit, and considering the features that exclude it from being one of the species a Bushevld Pipit can be confused with, I suppose it cannot really be anything else than a Bushveld Pipit. :?


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Hi Jumbo,
Looking at the sketch in Roberts PDA and photos at Pipits of Southern Africa and some other pages especially the one on this page I will also go with Bushveld Pipit

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
Unread postPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:39 am 
Thank you so much for the links, Francois. :thumbs_up:
The discussion of Faansie Peacock in the second link might be the answer why the bird I photographed does not show white on the outer tail feathers…the bird might have moulted.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Its a really great pic Jumbo. :clap:
I also can't really find any other alternative. :?

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
Unread postPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:36 pm 
That is very kind of you, thank you Elsa. :D
It was quite amazing to, two days in a row, find an array of insect eating birds at exactly the same spot…a birders’ buffet!! 8)
The more obvious ones we things like Crimson-breasted Shrikes, Bennett’s Woodpeckers, Southern Pied Babblers and Swallow-tailed Bee-eaters, etc, etc :wink: ….but, well-camouflaged on the ground, there were an array of these LBJ’s…I tried to get pix of most of them and am slowly but surely trying to ID these little “horrors” :shock: (they were all too busy eating the things that got everybody to the party and did not make sounds that would have obviously helped me a lot more :roll: )
BTW, quiet a few years after our first visit to Marakele, I have now rediscovered this park with our second visit …amazing place, especially birding!!! 8)


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Another one I need help with please. Pics taken at Dikhololo middel of September.

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 Post subject: Identification Help - LBJs
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Your Dikhololo bird looks like a Botha's lark! The thin, sharp, pink bill, heavy streaking on light belly breast and flanks, the flat body posture all points that way. The distribution is a bit squiff, though. I'd like to see what the lark experts like adrianp has to say...

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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The second bird is very interesting, and Botha's Lark was also the first thing that popped into my head when I first looked at it.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Thanks JvR and MattAxel - Botha's Lark is another lifer for me!! :dance: :dance: :dance:


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Geez guys, Naomi's Dikhololo bird looks like Bushveld Pipit to me.

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