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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
Unread postPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 8:24 pm 
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Hi Ryan first 2 look at chats familiar chat. The white eye ring and roufous tail. Did they flick their wings if so then definitely familiar chat. Again Im on my phone.

On the other one Ii go with Umtali1 a female chestnut backed possibly.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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A warm welcome to the Forum rcyza! :dance: :dance:

I am also not an expert, but agree with umtali1 and wingman's IDs. :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Thanks again for the help everyone.

Wingman, it looks to me like you were correct on both IDs. I don't remember if the chats flicked their wings or not, I think I was too busy wondering if the pictures would be good enough to ID them with! :)


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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I have a id to confirm...


?bushveld pipit - seen near Shingwedzi in Nov

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Sabota Lark would be my choice.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Thanks! WTM - I somehow got pipit in my head and I should have looked at the larks more closely!!
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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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This bird was photographed at Ebb and Flow (Wilderness) in November 2014. I saw it in the same area (open grass area next to fynbos) on several occasions. Photographs were generally overexposed, but the following 2 crops were fairly representative.
The yellow base to the bill directed my initial search, and I originally thought maybe Plain-backed Pipit, but the overall colouring and the shortish tail (and the fact that the back does appear a little mottled) made me discount that possibility. The shape and bill size also made me discount the African Pipit.
Then I thought, maybe a lark?
Based on the shape and yellow base to the bill and the buffy eyebrow, I am now leaning to Large-Billed Lark. (The colour appears to be somewhat darker than the photographs and drawings of the L-b L that I found, but that might be due to the photographer....and there does appear to be streaking on the breast)

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Hi Albert,

It is a young Common Starling.

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Thanks WTM (makes perfect sense now! :redface: )!

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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No problem, Albert.

I can see where you were going. :thumbs_up:

Typical all Pipits have brownish upperparts and a much more slender build. The ones you are likely to see foraging on the ground all show a tail "wagging" or "pumping" behavior and have relatively long tails.

It is never easy to id a pipit based from a photo. I always try to get a little video clip of a pipit because that tends to give more clues as to its behavior and therefore its identification.

As with anything else, practice makes perfect. The more you spend time out in the field, the easier it will become. :wink:

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