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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
Unread postPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 2:36 pm 
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My thought was also a Tawny, the white appears to be almost an additional piece standing away from the body, maybe a feather out of place


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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This looks to be a Tawny Eagle. Steppe Eagle would be a uniform dark brown all across the body. Look carefully at the pic and you see that the wings are a mottled brown along with a color contrast on the head and throat of this bird which points to Tawny


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Hi everyone.

I wonder if anyone can help me identify this raptor, seen on the side of the road between Mapungubwe Nature Reserve and Alldays, last weekend:

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Based on its stance, leg colour, cere and eye, I thought it may be an immature Southern Pale Chanting Goshawk, but I am really not sure.

Looking forward to any feedback.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Hi Ryan Im viewing this on my phone but you are probably right. I have travelled that road a few times and have almost always found pale not dark chanting goshawks in that area


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It is definitely a juvenile chanting goshawk. The territories appear to overlap here (totally out of my area), but I go with wingman. Southern pale.

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Wingman and BB should know .... I am always confused between Pale and Dark! Only know that you get the Dark in Kruger and the Pale in Kgalagadi! :wink:

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Thanks for the help everyone!


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Hi - not sure of this raptor. Seen near Olifants, KNP in end Oct. I could only get this particular view of the bird. It clearly had brown eyes so I was thinking of either a juvenile tawny or juvenile LSE.......


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Tawny Eagle... for me :thumbs_up:

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Tawny Eagle... for me :thumbs_up:

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"Common and widespread, the Tawny Eagle is a relatively large, handsome bird of prey, with heavily feathered legs. The plumage is generally tawny to rusty brown in colour, often with dark markings on the wings, especially the flight-feathers. Three subspecies are currently recognised, which occupy different geographical regions, and vary slightly in size, markings and colouration. During its first year, the immature Tawny Eagle’s plumage is much paler than the adults, often whitish, especially on the underparts".

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Thanks. I should mention that it did seem small for a tawny, hence the doubt whether it could be a LSE.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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A friend here in Darling saw this raptor in his garden and asked my help to ID it. It's not a great photo and it's the only one and I'm stumped -- particularly by that white on the forehead, which my friend said looked more like skin than feathers?

My initial guess might be black harrier or perhaps European marsh harrier, but really I have no clue. Any ideas?

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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arks wrote:
It's not a great photo



Unfortunately not, Arks. I can't make out much detail at all apart from obvious long yellow legs and a black body.

It is highly unlikely that it is a Western Marsh-Harrier based on behaviour and habitat. Have you considered Black Sparrowhawk?

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Thanks WTM. I had also considered black sparrowhawk, but thought with the overall solid black of this bird, black harrier was more likely?

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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It would be out of character and not normal behaviour for a Black Harrier to visit a garden, but I guess nothing is entirely impossible. Unfortunately the photo is just not good enough for me to make a definite call on this bird.

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