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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
Unread postPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 3:15 pm 
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WOW!

That is a great find! :thumbs_up:

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Thanks WTM and JVR! :thumbs_up:

Awesome to get a lifer in your own backyard! :dance: :dance: Our resident pair of Hadeda's gave it's presence away. I am sure it was around again yesterday afternoon for they were once more totally hysterical but I could not find it again. :D


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Wonderful naomi c! And beautifully captured too! :clap: :clap:

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wow nice one :dance: :clap:

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Hi all, Please your input, Eurasian Hobby or Amur Falcon?


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As above, same bird. Eurasian Hobby or Amur Falcon? Please. Found a few of them in a tree between Satara and Skukuza

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Looks Amurish... Barred on the sides, legs and cere reddish (not yellow), vent not dark enough

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magnificent :clap:

I have Eurasian Hobby nearby (not yet) and like Johan van Resenburg already said is certainly not an Eurasian Hobby ... as per these I observe here (European's spring/summer)

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Tnx Johan and anne-marie. Johan there is a very fine line between the two birds in question. I will accept the decision even though I find it hard to swallow :lol: anne-marie your fine script is too small for some "senior citizens" :shock: to read but it seems you want to agree with Johan.


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I'm also senior :shock: .... is to no interfere in this thread, which I like :thumbs_up:
and you can enlarge :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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johanclassen wrote:
Johan there is a very fine line between the two birds in question.


Not really, johanclassen. Eurasian hobby has a different looking giss because they are fast hunters of mostly small birds like quelea, canaries, pipits, swifts and swallows and also bats. The beak is more robust - that of a meat-eater as opposed to the more delicate bill of the almost exclusive insectivorous Amur falcon. The naked parts are yellow, not red. It does not show barring on the breast and flanks and the vent and leggings are dark rufous.

The overall appearance is dark. If you see the underwing, now THERE is a vast difference.

My pic is not near as good as yours, and does not show all the detail I refer to, but it should give you something to compare...

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"senior citizens"


:lol: Yar, well... The birds seem to have a particular attraction for senior citizens who often is very much into this pastime!

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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All points taken Johan Thanks. The fact that I watched them taking flying ants off the wing gave me the idea that it must be Eurasian Hobbies, I can remember reading that they feed on insects but also on birds.But then also the Hobby would have been a photographic lifer, that must have played a major role. I only count the birds I have images of, taken by myself. Sightings by binocs and my own eyes dont count. Appreciate the explanation very much, :clap: ........Senior citizens is tongue and cheeck but I suppose it must look funny deeing the old ballie running his backside off chasing a bird with a 400mm camera and sometimes even a monopod through a KNP camp from tree to tree. :cam: :redface: cheers!


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