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adrianp

Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:44 pm

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Looking carefully at the bird, you can see in places the feathers are going black in the places where you would expect them to go black in adult jackal buzzard. So IMO its a sub adult Jackal Buzzard.

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yvo

Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:17 pm

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Hello wildtuinman & adrianp
Thanks again for your help ! :thumbs_up:

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katydownunder

Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:57 pm

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Ok, after our most recent trip to the Kalahari i need help with two ID's...

First one seen at the Grootkolk waterhole, my guess would be Pallid Harrier

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This is the second pic, taken near Monro Waterhole. :hmz:

Juv. Lanner ?

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anne-marie

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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:23 pm

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the second I would say Lanner Falcon.... but too easy if you ask :wink:

could be Taita Falcon with all this rufous :hmz:

a rarity

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Ladybirder

Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:45 pm

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1 I also think its a Pallid Harrier
2 Yes its a Lanner Falcon :thumbs_up:

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MattAxel

Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:41 pm

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I'm overseas at the moment and don't have any SA books with me at the moment, but your first one looks like a juv Montagu's Harrier. Juv Pallid should have barring on the primaries.

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Albert

Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:15 am

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Saw this near Balule in September of this year:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/79621078@N06/8112668217/

Any ideas (bear in mind that I am a complete novice)?

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adrianp

Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:06 pm

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Hi Albert

I'd say its a juvenile Martial Eagle.

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Ladybirder

Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 10:05 pm

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Yes, I also think its a Juv Martial Eagle

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Albert

Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 12:16 pm

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Thanks,
I was not sure about this; thought it may be a juvenile Crowned Eagle. Difficult to decide on the coloration based on the illustrations in the Sasol book.

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davejenny

Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 12:39 am

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Definitely a Juvenile Martial Eagle.

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Bush Baptist

Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:20 pm

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Here's another Juvenile martial, Albert.

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Johannes van Niekerk

Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:03 am

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Saw this one on top of the mountains near Magoebas Kloof yesterday.

I'm leaning towards Steppe Buzzard - hoping for Forest Buzzard - but then it may be something completely different as well!

What is your verdict - and why? (so we can learn too!)

It was VERY far away and a lot of heat interference - so the image is not the quality I would like, but should suffice for ID.

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MattAxel

Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 12:02 pm

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Hi Johannes, this is definitely a Steppe Buzzard. One of the main features used to distinguish between Steppe and Forest is shown very well in this picture, and that is the markings on the flanks. Steppe Buzzard has barred flanks (as shown here), whereas Forest Buzzard has more blotched flanks.

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wildtuinman

Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 12:05 pm

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Spot on, and to add to Matt's reply, the pale band is also clearly visible across the breast.

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