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 Post subject: Re: Mapungubwe - an absolute treasure
Unread postPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:11 am 
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Ndloti, just a gentle reminder, Mapunguwe was only declared a heritage site in 2003. I find your comment rather suprising.

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 Post subject: Re: Mapungubwe - an absolute treasure
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 Post subject: Re: Mapungubwe - an absolute treasure
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ndloti wrote:
Arks , those are in fact the remains of military barracks from when the area was military property , saw when on a day walk there .
The area was closed to all but the military (and was not part of the homelands) as the area was a hotbed of insurgent incursions in the late '80's by freedom fighters who planted landmines indescriminately along the borders of SA .
I believe a reasonable degree of preservation of the area was maintained during this time considering the insurgent situation , I would go as far as saying it was better preserved at the time than is the case with heritage sights in general today .

Yes you're right ndloti,
I have fond memories of times spent on the hill (koppie) overlooking the confluence of the Limpop and Shashe rivers many years ago. We could even hear the resident leopard patrolling his area at night. Beautiful!

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 Post subject: Re: Mapungubwe - an absolute treasure
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Bushbarmy wrote:
I have just returned from Mapungubwe, unfortuantely I was disturbed by a few things. There were a lot of shots being fired in the western part, and not immediately after each other so that I could assume it was smugglers coming throught the limpopo being chased off by park personnel. The shots were at times half an hour apart, which to me indicates poaching and not hitting the target. A total of 7 shots within 3 hours. When park personnel are questioned the reply is "oh we heard it and we are investigating". Well hello, its the next day, the guys with the guns are LONG GONE!!!!



Sorry I know this is a old thread just wondering from where you here the shot coming? Were they in the western part itself east of the western part or west of the eastern part .

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 Post subject: Re: Mapungubwe - an absolute treasure
Unread postPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 3:52 pm 
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Bushbarmy:The tree rehabilitation and reintroduction has gone for a ball of chalk, this area is fenced with electric fence, but somehow the ellies during October 2011 broke in and to date nothing has been done to get them out of this area or fix the fencing. The damage is to say the least disheartening. There seems not to be one tree that is not damged and split and broken in half. I wonder what National Geographic would have to say about this, as they funded this project??


This post was also made in July last year and as yet no response. I think there are many people who would like to know what the current ecological management plan is for Mapungubwe. Last time I did research, the park's elephant management plan referred to the fences to keep the ellies out of at least some areas. Has this plan now been dropped due to lack of funds or what is the situation?

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 Post subject: Re: Mapungubwe - an absolute treasure
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I don't know if it's been dropped but I can tell you it doesn't really work. The ellies break the fence and just walk in if the electricity is not on and if it is it just "irates" (read urinate) them off and then they break it and walk right in. I have seen ellies inside the "no elephant zone" with all the fences intact aswell.

Not much stops the African Elephant.

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 Post subject: Re: Mapungubwe - an absolute treasure
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I guess this is a regional problem rather than a Mapungubwe-only problem. There are high numbers of elephant coming from the Tuli area into Mapungubwe and their impact is concentrated along the river due to their habitats away from the river getting smaller and smaller, mainly as a result of farming developments. I don't know if there really is a simple solution for this...
The problem is that the riverine habitat along the Limpopo has developed over many centuries without high elephant numbers. Now this habitat is under severe pressure due to frequent droughts (notwithstanding the latest floods), mining and high numbers of elephant.
It would be a tradegy to loose these unique habitats due to all these factors and I would hope that Sanparks have some kind of management plan to salvage the situation. It would be nice if we can get some official responses?

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