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 Post subject: Karoo: New 4x4 Eco-Trails
Unread postPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 12:14 pm 
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We did the 'old' one a year ago with Munchkin & SO, and it was great.

Here is the fire engine and SO driving :doh:

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 Post subject: Re: New 4x4 Eco-Trails open at Karoo National park
Unread postPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 1:37 pm 
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Sorry, a bit OT but...

BB, I read that trail is quite difficult. How did the Lux manage it? 2.7i or KZTE? I've got a 2.7i.

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 Post subject: Re: New 4x4 Eco-Trails open at Karoo National park
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2.7 Senyetse.

My wife is driving doesn't that tell you?

Seriously, there were 1 or 2 occasions I had to get out and guide her, but it was mildly challenging, and not vehicle-busting.

The views were stunning, and we saw a Verreaux's eagle on the nest.

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 Post subject: Re: New 4x4 Eco-Trails open at Karoo National park
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Bush Baptist wrote:
2.7 Senyetse.

My wife is driving doesn't that tell you?

Seriously, there were 1 or 2 occasions I had to get out and guide her, but it was mildly challenging, and not vehicle-busting.

The views were stunning, and we saw a Verreaux's eagle on the nest.


Ah THE best :thumbs_up:.
Um I'd rather not make any assumptions about your wife's driving skills :roll: :D.

Thanks, we'll try it out in December.

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 Post subject: Re: New 4x4 Eco-Trails open at Karoo National park
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The trail that Bush Baptist did is the Pienaars Pass which has now been replaced by the two new trails. Pienaars Pass was fairly difficult, especially in certain sections and we did get complaints about the difficulty of the trail from a number of visitors.

The two new trails are easy (Grade 1) but we still only allow 4x4s on them because there are some rocky sections which are only suitable for 4x4.

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 Post subject: Re: New 4x4 Eco-Trails open at Karoo National park
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I've done the 4x4 trail on Monday and it was wonderful again.
In one of the brochures it is described as a grade 2 route. You will damage a grade 2 vehicle if you are not careful. My first time up there a few years back was with a Toyota Condor 4x4 that is rated as 3. The Condor was a bit low at places because of rocks.
With the Hilux 4x4 it is a more easy drive but you must always concentrate.
Always use 4x4 with low range to protect the environment. There are lots of scars on the road where vehicles go up there without 4x4 engaged. You can see the "spinning" marks.

It is beautiful route with lots of silence and views.

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 Post subject: Re: New 4x4 Eco-Trails open at Karoo National park
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:thumbs_up: Thanks Christo.

Did you see the black eagles on the nest?

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 Post subject: New 4x4 Trail opened in Camdeboo National Park
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Camdeboo National Park has just opened a brand new 4x4 trail in the Park, which surrounds the town of Graaff-Reinet in the Eastern Cape.

The Koedoeskloof 4x4 Trail provides a 7-kilometre drive to the top of the mountain, providing unique and spectacular views of the landscape. The trail can be completed – with a return journey following the same track – in about three hours but the Karoo tranquillity and scenic vistas beg for a full day outing.

The turning point of the trail, which lies on top of the mountain in the Winterhoek area of the Park, is the perfect place for a picnic lunch or tea break and a picnic table is provided here.

The trail is graded between 2 on the flatter sections and 4 on the steep, rocky sections. The section of the trail just before the top of the mountain is steep and should only be attempted in dry weather.

Koedoeskloof 4x4 trail can be accessed via the Valley of Desolation gate, with the turnoff to the trail well signposted about 3 kilometres after the turnoff to the Valley of Desolation. No booking is necessary for those who wish to complete the trail and no fee is payable, apart from the Park conservation fee. Visitors can only attempt the trail in a 4x4 vehicle.


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 Post subject: Re: New 4x4 Trail opened in Camdeboo National Park
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And here are some photos taken by Graaff-Reinet resident, David Lipschitz, who said the trail is "a stunning trip":

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 Post subject: 4x4 Trails in Karoo NP
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Dear forum members,

I have searched for some infos about the 4x4 routes in Karoo but I found nothing in detail.
Could somebody help me and answer my questions:
Are both 4x4 trail in Karoo NP accessible as an one day trip. Could we drive a part of the Nuweveld Trail, turn around and drive back to the rest camp? Are both trails manageable with the Toyota Hilux 4x4 which we have rent?

Thanks for your help!!

Mogwei

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 Post subject: Re: 4x4 Trails in Karoo NP
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HI Mogwei

I did all the 4x4 trails in Karoo Nat Park about 5 or so years ago...I dont remember the details but I know the one course would be difficult to do in a day if you wanted to stop and enjoy some of the views.
4x4 Hilux would be perfect for the trip as vehicle clearance was the most important although 4x4 engagement was definitely necessary a lot of the time although we were in in 4x4 the whole time to minimize wear and tear on the roads.
The course we did was also for one direction only.

Hope this is of some help...keep well and enjoy!

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 Post subject: Re: 4x4 Trails in Karoo NP
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There are two 4x4 trails which link to each other and link on to the existing tourist roads. A 4x4 Toyota will be fine for the trails.

The Afsaal Trail is 12.7km in total, leading off the Potlekkertjie Loop (this doesn't include the distance you need to travel from the rest camp to start the trail). The Nuweveld Trail is 40.3km, not including the 5.3km part of the Afsaal Trail onto which it links, or the distance you travel to get to the trail. Therefore, you could do the longer trail within a day - or alternatively, you can stay over at the Embizweni Cottage which is accessed via a 3.7km road off the Nuweveld Trail.

The trails are done in a one-way direction (starting at the side closest to Doornhoek picnic site) so you would not be able to turn around. You should be able to complete it in one day, provided you start early.

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 Post subject: Re: 4x4 Trails in Karoo NP
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The Nuweveld Trail is 40.3km


Just note that the park map shows it as 90 something kms. I have pointed this out to the park staff.

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 Post subject: Re: 4x4 Trails in Karoo NP
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Has anyone done 4x4 routes in Karoo since they were changed?

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 Post subject: Re: 4x4 Trails in Karoo NP
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Yes BB we did both the new Afsaal and Nuweveld Trails in December. The Afsaal trail is as I mentioned very easy. Things would change if it rained but it is not challenging in the least, most 4x2 and soft roaders would manage easily.

The Nuweveld Trail is quite nice but also failrly easy with a few rocky sections and 2 or 3 rocky river crossings. I would not attempt it in a vehicle with low ground clearance.

Both are mentioned on teh Karoo website as being grade 1 trails.

But the best part of the trails is the scenery and solitude! We also saw a lot of wildlife - but the animals are very shy not seeing very many vehicles.

These two trails are free but the old 4x4 trail must be paid for.

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