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 Post subject: Re: When things go wrong!!! They go horribly wrong!!
Unread postPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:11 pm 
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Thanks for the pics. This is the problem we are sitting with due to the size of the park and that we cannot be everywhere and would love the assistance of the guests, if you do find a person going off the road as per the picture above I can tell you that he will be put out of the park....we just need the photographic evidence.

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 Post subject: Re: When things go wrong!!! They go horribly wrong!!
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Yet again the myth that a 4X2 with diff lock can go where real 4x4's go, has been busted.

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 Post subject: Re: When things go wrong!!! They go horribly wrong!!
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I think the poor chap thought he was going to get two activities for free, namely the Leeuwdrill 4x4 and a morning walk

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 Post subject: Re: When things go wrong!!! They go horribly wrong!!
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A bit off topic but worth mentioning. In a recent issue of an off road magazine is a picture of a guy who tried to drive through the deep waters of the Okavango with his VERY Expensive Merc GL 500. The Merc stopped dead in its tracks and had to be to transported back to SA on a low bed truck. I don't want to see the repair bill. Another chap tried his luck with a VW Touareg in the Namib. Sand got into the air intake and........ According to the magazine, the cost of the recovery and repairs exceeded R250 000,00.

It goes to show that you don't go and hunt buffaloes with a pea-shooter.

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 Post subject: Re: When things go wrong!!! They go horribly wrong!!
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Nice one KG.
The guy got part of the Leuudrill track for free plus a short walk. :hmz:

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 Post subject: Re: When things go wrong!!! They go horribly wrong!!
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Maxwell wrote:
Nice one KG.
The guy got part of the Leuudrill track for free plus a short walk. :hmz:


I think the fines might have made up for the 'freebies'.

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 Post subject: Re: When things go wrong!!! They go horribly wrong!!
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I would hope so but it was KGs humour I was praising. I assume it was humour :whistle:

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@Maxwell,

It sure was :lol:
Come to think of it I should have charged him for the walk he did actually double charge as it was un-guided as well :slap:

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 Post subject: Re: When things go wrong!!! They go horribly wrong!!
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You should have fined the guy that went and pulled him out as well. The way I read the report sounds as if he also went on the trail illegally to assist. :rtm:


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 Post subject: Re: When things go wrong!!! They go horribly wrong!!
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Oh, wow, I had heard about that guy walking in the park,
but I wouldn't have thought it was a mite who picked him
up.

Pity our paths didn't cross, Munchkin, but I'm sure you
had a splendid time! :thumbs_up:

Apart from this ignorant behaviour of that guy,
I also found that littering is increasing quite a bit in KTP.
I don't know how many times we reversed to pick up
mainly plastic bottles, but also other stuff.

And although behaviour generally wasn't too bad,
there was also some serious speeding. Time to get a
speed trap. :sniper:

Also quite a few open car doors, people hanging out of the
car or protruding from the sun roof. At Kaspersdraai we had
a guy walking up to our car to enquire what we were looking
at. Well, about 15 minutes after that a lioness came to drink
at the waterhole. :slap:
BTW, I told him that getting out of the car wasn't on the cards
(in a polite way) and he just made fun of my comment...

We also had people who had clearly found something in the dunes
(camera ready, holding binocs in their hands)
who wouldn't share their sighting. Quite a cheek, but we got
compensated beeeg time and I'm sure they did not. :twisted:

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Munchkin wrote:
I advised him to ask SANParks staff at TR for help, knowing that they would probably give him a fine or at least a warning. We never reported him as such but I made sure that when I saw a SANParks employee (Aubrey I think) at the Melkvlei Picnic Spot, I told him about the fact that this guy's vehicle was stuck in the 4x4 trail.......Turns out he managed to get somebody from the campsite to help him retrieve his vehicle, but not without SANParks finding him and dishing out the necessary punishment.

I have to add though, that he was also seen by two passing vehicles, as he was exiting the Leeuwdrill 4x4 road - they thought he was a poacher!! And reported him as well! :thumbs_up:


Just wondered if the guy that helped him got permission from SANParks to retrieve the vehicle or at least got a permit to drive the route.
If he did not he was just as guilty as the guy that got stuck and both should have been fined. Does not matter if he drove a 4x4 or had a good heart helping out, the point is SANParks should have been notified that he was going to recover the vehicle. You must get out of your car to do that. So that is actually two fines for each. And double for the guy that got stuck driving the route on two different days and twice out side his car.

Munchkin had the correct principle and so should others. A good deed does not out weight rule breaking.

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Then I am a guilty rule breaker as well for collecting the litter. :whistle:

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Lionspoon wrote:
Oh, wow, I had heard about that guy walking in the park,
but I wouldn't have thought it was a mite who picked him
up.

Pity our paths didn't cross, Munchkin, but I'm sure you
had a splendid time! :thumbs_up:

Apart from this ignorant behaviour of that guy,
I also found that littering is increasing quite a bit in KTP.
I don't know how many times we reversed to pick up
mainly plastic bottles, but also other stuff.

And although behaviour generally wasn't too bad,
there was also some serious speeding. Time to get a
speed trap. :sniper:

Also quite a few open car doors, people hanging out of the
car or protruding from the sun roof. At Kaspersdraai we had
a guy walking up to our car to enquire what we were looking
at. Well, about 15 minutes after that a lioness came to drink
at the waterhole. :slap:
BTW, I told him that getting out of the car wasn't on the cards
(in a polite way) and he just made fun of my comment...

We also had people who had clearly found something in the dunes
(camera ready, holding binocs in their hands)
who wouldn't share their sighting. Quite a cheek, but we got
compensated beeeg time and I'm sure they did not. :twisted:


Hi Lionspoon,

Now how can you tell others to stay in the car and then get out or hang out yourself to pick up the litter. :wink: :hmz: I hope it was only in the picnic area. (I am just pulling your socks)

In KTP I am more forgiving with people getting out of their cars than driving off-road. Thats why I said make it a double fine. I am sure you were responsible enough to make sure no danger was closeby you pick that litter.

In actual fact you need to look out for animals much more closely when stopping at picnic areas than stopping at a waterhole where you have a good view of whats around your car. I am sure you have seen some of the pics at Aucterlonie, Melkvlei or Dikbaardkolk where the lions also enjoy a picnic or using the loo. They might be sleping behind a structure and you will not see them where along the road its sometimes safer.

Here is a link to my pic of litter at Melkvlei.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid= ... 08f777d164

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