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 Post subject: Re: best scenic bush campsites
Unread postPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:42 am 
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Hi again

Just spoke to a friend at Twee Rivieren who just spoke to to the people there for me.
This is how it works: you can take a trailer only on the bottom section of the Mabuasehube Trail that is Matopi 1 , Matopi 2 and Bosobogolo and no futher, upto Polentswa camp and no futher on that trail. Trailers are not allowed on any of the other trails that includes the northern section (Kaa and that area).

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 Post subject: Re: best scenic bush campsites
Unread postPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 3:29 pm 
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Thank you so much Bigal for doing this It is all so clear now
I called TR Reception the other day because I wanted clarity and the person I spoke to confirmed 'no' trailers, BUT that was because I asked her about the 'trails' so it was because I was not clear in what I asked Now all that's needed is THE trailer and a CT forumites get together so you can enlighten are few more of us interested folk
Thanks Big'al' , I'm sure you have made it clear for many

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 Post subject: Re: best scenic bush campsites
Unread postPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 4:15 pm 
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The first is the Gemsbok wilderness trail from Nossob over Polentswa, Kaa and back to Nossob (one-way anti-clockwise) with one compulsory sleepover on the route. The second one is the eco trail (one-way) from east to west between Mabuasehube and Nossob. Both these trails require pre-booking with limitations on the number and type of vehicles and as far as I know NO trailers are not allowed on these trails. The Swart Pan loop needs no booking, neither is the direction of travel defined.

The road from Kaa Gate to the Nossob-Unions End road, connecting at Kannaguas is indicated as a 'public road'. It is a single track, but allowing two-way traffic.

Then there is the other 'public' two-way traffic road between Nossob and Mabuasehube.

Both these 'public' roads are connecting roads that allows access through the park between Botswana and South Africa. I have not seen any limitations on whether the access roads prohibits the use of trailers - maybe a recommendation not to bring your "ventertjie" along.

If anyone have the latest 'official' rules/information please correct me. Word of mouth is missleading. As an example, in 2006 we were told by a park official that we are not allowed into the Botswana side without stamped passports, corrected by the customs officer when we explained that we were not planning on exiting the park into the greater Botswana.
(We did the documentation in any case just to be sure.)

My reference: The Shell Tourist Map of Kgalagadi Transfrontier Park by Veronica Roodt, 2006.


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 Post subject: Re: best scenic bush campsites
Unread postPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 5:26 pm 
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Unless there is a very good reason for it, I would prefer to stay away from the tented camps or bungalows and stay a min of 3 nights in a true wilderness camp.

So far only Polentswa has been sugested. What does the surrounding look like? Dunes or no dunes? What kind of game nearby?

Another choice is to stay at Nossob for the kids to enjoy the pool. Is it the best choice regarding the camp itself (mid-week - off school holiday) and regarding the surrounding area. Now combined with Polentswa, there are very nearby.

What about the camps near Kaa? Is the green track on the map from Kannaguass to Kaa, accessible to off-road trailer?

What about the campsites 1, 2 & 3 (Witgat, Rosyntjiebos & Swartbas) indicated on the map, and marked as overnight stay. I have found no info about them. Is it possible to camp there with the trailer?

Honestly, I could not imagine that it would be so 'difficult' to travel and camp with an off-road trailer in the park!


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 Post subject: Re: best scenic bush campsites
Unread postPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:09 am 
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Paul,

To answer a few of your questions. Regarding Polentswa and it's surroundings. The area there is relatively open veld as the Nossob is wide and the dunes set back. In the KTP the game is everywhere and nowhere, it's very difficult to say what you'll see - but you have just as much chance as anywhere else.

Nossob is a good choice off peak. It's a spacious camp in a good viewing area with the added bonus of a pool.

Witgat etc are camps on the Nossob Eco-Trail which you have to book for and are accompanied by a ranger. You can't just arrive. And definitely no trailers. My understanding on the banning of trailers off-road is that the extra oomph needed to drag a trailer on the sandy tweespoors really stuffs the tracks up and makes it very difficult to maintain them.

The road from Kannaguass to Kaa is an access road so trailers would be allowed, but you need to check with BotsParks regarding trailers on the Kaa Loop.

If you are after better game viewing stick to the river beds, and if it's solitude you're after head for the dunes
KTP, being run by SanParks, is a more formal environment than some of our neighbours, so you can't bushcamp when you see a lekker spot, unfortunately


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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi: Best camps
Unread postPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 3:57 pm 
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Sorry to bug you all again with my questions. This time I can't decide between 3 nights at Nossob or 3 nights at TR (both are on the list but only one will have 3 nights, the other 2). After having read - what I think - all about it in the according threads I'm completed confused.

BTW wilderness camps are not an option, most are booked for the period we are planning to travel.

Oh, maybe I should add that I'd like the quietness and would die for stunning sunrises / sunsets.

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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi: Best camps
Unread postPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 5:22 pm 
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Hi Lionspoor
Not knowing much about your trip, dates etc, I would still suggest 3 nights Nossob and 2 nights TR

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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi: Best camps
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Thanks Dreamer, I tended towards that decision as well. The plan is to stay 7 to 8 nights. 2 at Urikaruus and 2 at KK are a must. At least my thinking after all I read and saw about them. Nossob and TR I'd like to do as well. Now I just need to get the bookings finally done.

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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi: Best camps
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Lionspoon, Nossob is a must . You cannot do KTP without 2-3 nights there

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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi: Best camps
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Urikaruus!!!!!!!!!!

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 Post subject: The nicest camp in the Kgalagadi.
Unread postPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:01 pm 
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If I were to book for a visit to the Kgalagadi,I will not know where to stay.
Stay where your booking puts you,one may argue,but I prefer to know what I am letting myself and Leah and the significant skoonma in for.

Please write about your preferred camp.This thread may also be of value to other folks.
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 Post subject: Re: The nicest camp in the Kgalagadi.
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Hi Andre,
We just returned from Kgalagadi and loved the camps that we stayed in. We were told (when talking to someone at a picnic spot) that the camps that we missed were the greatest !

Perhaps knowing more about that significant skoonma's preferences might help us, help you ?

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 Post subject: Re: The nicest camp in the Kgalagadi.
Unread postPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:49 am 
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I love Nossob, because it is in lion country - did I say that?

Marie se draai always has something happening, and the raptors around Nossob are the densest I have ever seen.

Cheetah, brown hyena, AWC, BEF, Cape fox are also regularly seen, and at the northern waterholes, leopard.

The camp atmousphere does it for me, and skoonma can skinny dip in the pool at night

Urikaruus, where I have never stayed has a great reputation, and Grootkolk where I have stayed is a great place to leave skoonma if she is disagreeable.

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 Post subject: Re: The nicest camp in the Kgalagadi.
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I prefer the camps on the Bots side after my recent trip


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 Post subject: Re: The nicest camp in the Kgalagadi.
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I could answer better if I knew what a "skoonma" is. The camps would be different depending on whether that's a wife, mother-in-law, or worst enemy...or are those choices redundant?


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