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Unread postPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 10:33 am 
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Bought my version 2 of the Roberts PDA software a few weeks ago.
I saw it during our trip in May ''in action'' and was very impressed by the sounds.
Now having it in my own hands I am even more impressed.
Wow how much of information is there to be found.
Great sketches and photos of the birds. All these sounds. Suddenly it occurs to us, that we already heard a lot of birds but were just not be able to ID them by their call. :redface: :roll:
I still need some time to ''play'' around with the programme though.

For those in Europe here some information about prices and delivery.

I ordered my software (incl. Plug and Play SD Card) in South Africa at Southern African Birding.
I ordered it on a weekend and within a week I got it in my hands :thumbs_up: .

Including international delivery it came to a total of R783 (about 80€).
I found it here in Europe as well but the price was ridiculous.
At the NHBS Environment Bookstore you are paying 119 GBP(approximately 175€ or R1700 !! :shock: ).

You can find some more information and screen shots on the Soutern African Birding page.

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I have just discovered this thread. Most information was posted during 2005/2006. With technology advanced since then I would like to know the following:

I have a laptop with a memory slot card reader built in. Will these SD cards refered to (ebirds, ultimate guide to Sanparks) work on my laptop or do I still need a PDA?

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The software is designed for Windows Mobile, so yes, you still need a PDA. Products like Roberts offer both PC and PDA versions of the software.

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Mgoddard, if your laptop has a CD-ROM or DVD drive then you can get bird books in that format. e.g. Roberts Multimedia.

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Thank you to everyone who posted information on this thread! I am now the proud owner of Roberts Multimedia Birds of Southern Africa PDA Version 2 and it is as great as everyone has said. We have two very concise bird books which we have carried to SA and back for the last 10 years but wanted something more comprehensive for our upcoming KTP trip. We were going to buy the Roberts or Sasol bird book in SA but were worried about the extra weight, especially given all the camera equipment we drag around with us! Now we don't have to worry as the PDA is a lot less weight and it has the bird sounds as well!

I ordered it from SA Birding on Sunday 6 Jan and it arrived yesterday (15th Jan) - from SA to UK. Thanks KDU for the link! I was very impressed with the service! It is so easy to install and even though I have a very old PDA and it works fine.

If you have a PDA and are travelling to SA I would certainly recommend it. :D

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Enjoy, Issy! :thumbs_up:

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Besides the already discussed Sasol ebirds, has anyone tried the other PDA Solutions titles ? I'm especially interested in the eTrees. I was also wondering, how useful would the eSnakes and eFrogs guides be for a KNP visitor ? I mean, how often one encounters frogs and snakes there ?

Also, what about the Kruger Guide mentioned earlier in this thread ? Is it not available anymore ?


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Hi micmic

I am fairly new to the PDA, but have found the Sasol birds very useful. I have found, though that one needs a good bird book as well (my "Bible" is Newman - but others might differ). I particularly like the "compare" facility on the Sasol birds, and, of course, the calls.

I bought the e-Trees but have found it a bit tricky to use. I prefer the actual book that it was taken from (Field Guide to Trees of Southern Africa - van Wyk & van Wyk). I did a FGASA course last year and we got to know the book rather well! One problem, whether using the book or PDA is that you need to have the leaf in your hand (or be really close to the tree). In KNP one cannot (a) get out of the car and (b) pluck a leaf. The PDA trees (and in most cases the book, too) don't give a picture of the whole tree - a few books do, and that is quite a good start to IDing the tree.

Can't comment on the PDA snakes and frogs, but can say that I have seldom seen a snake in KNP. You tend to hear frogs, rather than see them - so, if the PDA frogs incluldes calls, it might be quite fun.

There is a frog book that includes a CD of calls.

There are good reptile books that might be more use than spending the money on the PDA programme.

Depends on your budgetting and needs.

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Thanks Hippotragus, very informative post. So I suppose that a good pair of binoculars or a tele lens can't compensate for the lack of a tangible leaf ? If not, is there a specific book you deem more suitable for identifying trees from a distance ?


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Hi micmic

Hope I'm not getting into deep water!! The van Wyk & vqn Wyk book is very good and does have very good descriptions of the trees, leaves, fruit, flowers etc. I don't want to upset the PDA people, but flicking through a book is easier than flicking through the PDA - unless you know what family of trees you are looking for. I think the PDA trees is a wonderful idea, and I'm sure can be of great use.

Another useful book is A Photographic Guide to Trees of Southern Africa by Piet van Wyk (one of the co-authors of the above book), published by Struik. It is a handy pocket size and, as the name implies, has good photos of the whole tree, leaf, fruit, flower etc.

A book I bought in KNP in May is Making the Most of Indigenous Trees by Fanie & Julye-Ann Venter, published by Briza. It does not have ALL the trees, but has pictures and interesting info on some of the most common trees.

A good reptile book is A guide to the Reptiles of Southern Africa by Graham Alexander and Johan Marais, Published by Struik.

The frog book with the CD is Frogs and Frogging in Southern Africa by Vincent Carruthers, published by Struik.

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Talking of PDA software, does anyone know how good the new Kgalagadi software is??

We are going there next May and I am debating whether it would be worth buying the Kgalagadi software. I know one also needs a Garmin-type instrument for it to work properly.

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