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 Post subject: Ergorest or beanbags???
Unread postPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 11:58 pm 
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I am holidaying in the kruger, yes only 114 days to go, and have been toying with the idea of buying the Ergorest window tripod or using bean bags, I am travelling with two cameras one a digital with X 18 Zoom and the other a SLR with 35 to 210 zoom. Any suggestions as to whether it is worth buying the ergorest or stick with bean bags. also if buying which camera is best used with the ergorest?? :huh: :huh: :huh: Any suggestions appreciated. Since i will only be visiting Kruger again in 2010, and from such a distance, i want to get the max out of cameras and photographs


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 Post subject: Re: Ergorest or beanbags???
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Personally, I toyed with the idea of buying an ergorest for years but never did and am very happy with my beanbag because I can have it filled with beans, rice, bird seed or whatever here in the UK, and then empty it, pack it in my case flat and just fill it up at the other end when I get to my destination. I would say it gives you a good firm base too and coming from Aus with all of that other kit, such a dynamic packable piece of kit would be my preference.

Plus, if you leave the engine running or have someone else in the vehicle who is moving about, window clamp systems can vibrate and you end up getting an ever-so-slightly blurred shot, whereas a beanbag absorbs most motion giving you a steady surface.

Although I hate the idea of it, the Bushbag make of beanbag comes filled with polystyrene balls, making it light. Therefore however it has a strap that fits over your lens, holding the beanbag to the underside of the lens (not really possible with 1kg of rice or popcorn kernals) leaving you free to manouvre your lens and plonk it anywhere knowing that the beanbag will be underneath giving you a good solid support! :wink:

Anyway, that's my experience and 2 cents worth...it's 1.38am and I'm off to bed...happy shooting :cam:

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 Post subject: Re: Ergorest or beanbags???
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Discussion about beanbags etc

My SO used both.
But decided to stick to the beanbag
You can act much faster .
And you can get a lower shot

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 Post subject: Re: Ergorest or beanbags???
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Beanbag is speed...
No matter which side of the car the animal will appear on, the bag can be slammed down, camera on top in seconds.
Try that with an Ergorest...

And as Bert says, the Ergorest, ballhead etc makes for quite a height, making it difficult to see through the viewfinder. And you'll be acquainted with the handhold above the window on a regular basis, so will need a sort of helmet. Believe me, I know it for a fact!

So beanbag for Kruger, unless you're waiting at a waterhole, standing at a kill or such.

For compacts there is a beanbag you can screw under it, the Pod, see the topic Bert pointed out. That works fine, unless you want to photograph in portrait, when it'll be on the side...

Don't forget a remote release for the SLR!

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 Post subject: Re: Ergorest or beanbags???
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Thanx all for the advice, yes will stick with the humble beanbag


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 Post subject: Re: Ergorest or bean bags.
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Hi weesy Image

In my opinion the bean bags work alot better , more stable as well as easy to manouver especially with bigger cameras.

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 Post subject: Re: Ergorest or beanbags???
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I have both and use it in different situations. The beanbag is great for general stuff and you might need to move around.
If the subject is relatively still like maybe some lions at a kill or activity at a waterhole I use the ergorest. It then makes it a little bit easier to use remote release.
Travelling from overseas however I would stick to just the beanbag though.

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 Post subject: Re: Ergorest or beanbags???
Unread postPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:40 pm 
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Checkout the following link for a really good bean bag system. I bought it and it works really well.

http://www.outdoorphoto.co.za/cms/node/51


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 Post subject: beanbag
Unread postPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:16 pm 
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Hi

Please can I have any ideas as to how to make a bean bag? Is it literally beans (mealies, beads ...) in a sealed bag? What bags are best and what is best to put inside? How much should one put inside?

I searched beanbag on the forum, but there was none of this info.

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 Post subject: Re: beanbag
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Hi. I did quite a lot of research into this a while back, and also decided to make my own bean bags for photography (not sure what you plan to use yours for).
I'm very fortunate in that my mother is excellent at sewing and has all the kit (sewing machines etc). I basically designed my bags and she sews em.

I use rice in mine - I went to the supermarket and rice was the cheapest per weight/volume. You could also use pearled barley or maybe lentils etc. I put the rice into a zip lock bag (or the sealed bag it came in), then into the cloth bag which closes with velcro. I made my own bean bag design, which in my opinion is better than those available commercially for photography.

Put inside as much as you want, depending on your use. My bag also has a velcro strap that goes around it, which I can tighten or loosen depending on what I'm using it for, what its sitting on (window sill, bird hide sill) etc.

I can try post pics later if you want (don't have access to them at work)

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 Post subject: Re: beanbag
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Thanks Josh

I will be using it for wildlife from the car etc. I guess a old cloth bank bag would do it? Also less dusty stuff would be good?

Maybe you should start a bussiness selling Bean bags !

Pics would be great!

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 Post subject: Re: beanbag
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Sure.
I've thought about selling but I don't think it would be worth it. I'd rather share my design with the world (I'm a proponent of open-source software too :) )

An old bank bag would probably work, though I designed mine (shape wise) specifically for use in cars, and it works very well.

I keep the rice in the original plastic bag or a ziplock because it then doesn't generate dust or get wet and I can clean the outer bag quite easily.

Will try find time tonight to post pics

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 Post subject: Re: beanbag
Unread postPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:27 pm 
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right, here are the photos of my bean bag (first time I'm posting any of these details on the 'net in 2 years, so consider yourselves lucky :P )

Top view of bean bag:
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Side view of bean bag:
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Bean bag filling - rice in original bag:
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Pieces separated:
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Its designed to be used on car windows, car window sills, on ledges in bird hides etc etc. The velcro strap can be tightened or loosened for greater height etc.

I'm embarrassed to say I left it at home (along with my tripod) on my trip to Kruger last week :redface: .

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 Post subject: Re: beanbag
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Joshilewis

Thanks for the effort and the sharring!

I don't know if it is only me, but I cannot see the pics. They are just white blocks with the dreaded red X!

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