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Will post Part 2 of Day 3 tomorrow, have lent my beer cans to bouffie for the night :D I do hope they work for her better than they are working for me at the moment :lol:

Thank you for the loan of the beer cans, popped them in the wormhole last night, hope they made it home, so that you can continue with this delightful report :D

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Ok, beer cans back in place, (thank you Bouffie for returning them) maybe slightly dented, but still just working, so therefore, here goes.

DAY 3, Part 2

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We finally left about who knows what time ish, but we wanted to get to Biyamiti in good time.

From there headed straight down to Lower Sabie, not really seeing much on the way at all, a couple of rhino, one with some really nasty sores/wounds on his face, some zebra and young, which were very sweet.

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a lone ellie, and nothing much else.

The Sausage Trees and Weeping Wisteria were all out in full bloom and they all looked magnificent.

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We traveled down from LS on the S28 as far as the S137 (we just had to try and catch sight of the legend, Duke) where we turned to head back towards the H4-2, but all we saw there was an extremely long line of zebra all marching with great purpose going to, who knows where!!!! We had to wait for them to cross the road, we had a real “Zebra Crossing”!.

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We traveled down the H4-2 for a short while, and found a large bird in a tree so stopped to try and identify it. Well whilst doing this my SO suddenly said, “Look what is that?” At the side of the road, just off the road was this impala fetus………. It had not been there for long I don’t think by the look of it.

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Then we noticed, but about 20 meters away, also just off the road, what was obviously the mother.

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Distressing to say the least. On the tar, in the middle of the road, just opposite where the mother lay was a large pool of blood. What had happened? What had caused this? Why was the fetus so far from the Mother? Why was the mother in such a mess? It was obviously fairly new, had not happened too much earlier. Had a car hit them? But how did they get to where they lay? It was and has remained a complete mystery to us. It was a sad and distressing sight to see. No wild animals, were around at all and so how did this happen?

Turned off on the H5 and then onto the S108 and then S25 to get to Biyamiti. Saw nothing at all on this lovely road, except for this little gem which we watched for quite some time trying to identify him………. He is clearer in this pic (which is not really very clear) than he was at the time.

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Immediately after leaving the picnic spot we bumped into the zebra heard that we saw running away from the water a bit before. Among them was an adorable foal.

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On the H10 we turned south towards Lower Sabie and saw a lone white rhino bull with a nasty wound on his ar…euh behind! The oxpeckers were having a ball! Poor old fella.
Jazil says: I wonder whether this is the rhino we saw, but just his back view, when we had seen his face only?

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On this road (that had been so kind to us 10 months earlier) we also saw some more zebra, giraffe, impala and a lone elephant bull.

We pulled over at bustling Lower Sabie and headed for the shop. The SCC was doing such a wonderful job: it simply could not stay without reward (see later). The deck overlooking the river was very busy but it was still worth having a look at the water: ellies, hippo, …. Great place actually, maybe a bit busy for those seeking secludedness but a nice lay-out.

About 1 KM from LS in the direction of Crocodile bridge there was a lot of commotion. People had seen a leopard stalking impala! You can imagine the place soon turned into a “ Mexico City rush hour scene”. Still we wanted to hang around for a while: we could not see the leopard but the sounds and the behaviour of the nearby impala rams betrayed his presence. He prefered not to show himself however and we decided to go and try our luck around Duke waterhole hoping Kruger’s emperor would show up somewhere along the road. No such luck either! Instead of that we saw white backed vultures and a herd of giraffe with two lovely calves.

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From there to the Byiamiti private road we saw nothing special! On that road we soon discovered Jazil and SO’s bakkie. They were trying to identify 2 diferent species of raptor in the same tree (at least that’s what the four of us thought since there was a pale and a dark one) It turned out to be two Wahlberg’s eagles!!!

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Arrived at Biyamiti at about 4:00ish, and went to book into our adjoining bungalows, numbers 3 and 4. We were in 3 and Salva and SO in 4, ( all arranged before hand, thankyou staff at Biyamiti), however Salva and SO found a couple sitting on their verandar!!!!!!!!! Now what? It turned out that this couple were meant to be in Number 5, but the folk in Number 5 had gone off in the morning and had not returned, and had not packed up or anything!!!!!!!!

Anyways, the staff, packed up for the non returned people in Number 5, the couple sitting on Number 4’s verandah moved to Number 5 and Salva and SO were able to move into Number 4. (Musical Bungalows by any chance??)

I have no idea what happened to the folk who had been in Number 5, apparently they had actually arrived a day early, three days previously, and were not booked in so the Staff at Biyamiti found them accommodation outside the park for the night and had to escort them to the gate as it was after closing time, and I imagine they had to do the same this night when they did return. The staff at Biyamiti are wonderful.

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After the bungalow saga, perfectly described by Jazil, we went out for a short drive on the Biyamiti road in western direction! Saw elephant, close to the road, buffalo at the first waterhole you come across in that direction (can’t remember the name), impala and a lovely lilac breasted roller. We also enjoyed the view from the viewpoint over the river close to camp.

Back to camp now for diner – our last braai prepared by the SCC! Yummie: something to look forward to…

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I settled in and spent the rest of the afternoon relaxing in the camp, looking for and hearing all the wonderful birds. Salva and SO went for a drive, and arrived back at some time ish!

Started to prepare our last evening meal together…….. tonight was the night for the “lamb” NOT “mutton” chops.
Prepared the chops by marinating them in lemon juice and black pepper, with a touch of Rosemary, (dried not fresh unfortunately).

Marinated the large piece of steak we had in olive oil, lemon juice, chicken spice, garlic, and origanum. Oh and BLACK PEPPER again!

Cut the tomatoes and onions and mixed them together with a touch of Balsamic Vinegar and Olive Oil, with a sprinkling of Origanum and garlic, and salt and BLACK PEPPER.

Prepared the potatoes to bake them on the coals of the braai by rubbing salt and herbs into the skin. Oh and made a couple of holes in them with a fork.

SO lit the braai and then we waited for Salva and SO to arrive! Which they eventually did, bearing with them this gift below for me.

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And please note it has its very own YELLOW RIBBON!!!! Which Salva informs me is a piece of the yellow ribbon that his Mother gave him and that he was using when we first met in November 2005. What a wonderful touch, I will treasure it forever, the Yellow Ribbon, (the whisky however will not last that long!)

We had a wonderful evening, machonchans of the steak again, as we sipped on our whiskeys and bottles of wine, and then the lamb, not mutton, chops, wors, baked potatoes which we filled with butter or mayo, and my special Kruger “Tomonion Salad”.

We chatted late into the night, heaven knows what time it was when we all fell into bed…….. it was an “ish” time though for sure. We were sad that it was our last evening together. We had had such a wonderful time together.

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Once again it turned into a memorable evening! The steak machonchans with mustard were superb as was the lamb (SCC RULES: :clap: these people know what marinating is all about) Must be boring for you readers to read the same story over and over but I am sorry…it was a darn fantastic evening once again with chatting, laughing, stories, food, wine, whiskey, amarula…. I didn’t want this evening to end to be honest but at a certain time we had to hit the sack because we had to get up early the day after: packing + of course going for an early morning drive!

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Jazil says: I wonder whether this is the rhino we saw, but just his back view, when we had seen his face only?


Been looking at the picks and the rhino we saw indeed also had wounds at the head and neck! So I think it was the same rhino...pretty sad sighting actually

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Again a wonderful report Jazil and Salva ! :D

Yes the Impala incident is indeed very strange and sad :(
I really wonder what could have happened.
Maybe someone got a theory or even knows what happend there.

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Wonderful report

I would guess that this Impala escaped a predator. Unfortunately it was mortally wounded already. She probably was semi eviscerated before she escaped and managed to put a fair distance between herself and the predators before the eveything started falling out.

Most likely Lion.

Did you guys perhaps go back to the spot the next day??

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I would guess that this Impala escaped a predator. Unfortunately it was mortally wounded already. She probably was semi eviscerated before she escaped and managed to put a fair distance between herself and the predators before the eveything started falling out.

Most likely Lion.


Oh you speak such drivel!!!! Where did you learn about wildlife?? Barney and Friends??? :roll:

Anyway, it was probably killed by something like WD or Hyena. Look, the throat is intact and the stomach ripped apart with no claw marks on the back. She was probably killed and dragged and the foetus fell out. Have a good look at the carcass. Predator was most likely disturbed or chased off by something bigger.

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Loams, you certainly do have a theory there, however, there were no drag marks near either the fetus or the mother. There was a large pool of blood on the main road opposite the mother, I did not take a pic of this. And no we did not return the next day as we were going out of the Park in a different direction and did not have time to go back.

I just cant believe that no predators were in site, I thought their sense of smell was very good. Why no hyena or jackal or WD? These pics were taken just before 3:00pm, is this too much in the middle of the day for them???? And if the predator had been chased off by something bigger, why was the something bigger not around??? I really would love to have this mystery solved though.

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Here's my theory on the impala .

If you look at the impala , you will see that she has got blood on her mouth , her lower front legs and chest .
Antelope do not bleed from the lower legs , so I suspect she was hit by a vehicle , which possibly caused large scale internal bleeding into the lungs .
This caused the pool of blood in the road as she lay there after the initial shock , with the blood coming out her mouth due to a lung injury (Was the blood dark/very red and frothy , do you have a pic ?)
This caused the blood to land up around her mouth , fore legs and chest , as she was basically lying in the pool of blood.

After a certain amount of blood loss and then regaining consciousness , she probably walked off and colapsed on the side of the road (Or somebody came along and moved it out the road)
It looks like the animal died very quickly from blood loss, and was probably in a high state of shock with huge amounts of adrenaline in the body which enabled it to try seek safety in the bush away from the road , and gave it the power for a last try at survival before death (She basically walked off the road dead)
The shock/adrenaline would dull all pain , so there would have been no suffering , so do not feel worried about that .

I would say then that a predator/scavenger came along , which is why you see the stomach area opened up , although not much blood , as this was already lost in the road .
Was the blood in the road far drier than that on the animals stomach , indicating that the stomach was opened a while after the blood landed up in the road.

If you look carefully you will see there is a small bite taken out of the front right leg near the hoof , which is probably made by a small predator/scavenger such as a jackal/caracal who would also go for opening up the softer parts of the animal like we see.
The animal has not been turned over onto its back/side , to make eating easier , as you normally see with bigger predators like lions etc .

A leopard would have taken the entire animal away to a tree or thicket.
Wild dogs would have finished the animal , and feasted on all areas .
Hyena would start to eat it , then take it away if there was only 1 .
Lions would have stayed there with the animal until they had finished eating it .

If you look carefully at the foetus , you can see what looks like 2 wounds (dark spots)on the front of the neck , so it is possible a jackal/caracal had found this after opening the stomach area , and tried to move away with it , but when you came along , it is possible that it dropped it and ran into the bush to hide .
You say the bird you saw in the tree was large , so this could also have frightened a jackal away (especially something like a martial eagle).
If the sand was fairly coarse and hard , prints from a small animal like a jackal would not be well defined , unlike a large predator where you would more than likely see some sign of them .
If you look carefully , there is grass that has been flattened on the stomach side of the animal ,indicating that something had moved there , most likely as it ate and opened the stomach area .
There is a possible print in front of the mouth , but I cant see enough detail when I enlarge it .

Hope this was not to gruesome a theory for some :?


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....with the blood coming out her mouth due to a lung injury (Was the blood dark/very red and frothy , do you have a pic ?)

Unfortunately I dont have a pic as really only noticed the blood as we were driving off......... the blood was very red, but not very dark like old blood....... frothy?? mmmmm, could have been slightly so yes. I must admit did not really study the blood, wish I had now.
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.....Was the blood in the road far drier than that on the animals stomach , indicating that the stomach was opened a while after the blood landed up in the road.

No I would not say the blood on the road was drier at all. If I remember correctly that is..... but my mind still sees wet blood if that makes sense.

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If you look carefully at the foetus , you can see what looks like 2 wounds (dark spots)on the front of the neck , so it is possible a jackal/caracal had found this after opening the stomach area , and tried to move away with it , but when you came along , it is possible that it dropped it and ran into the bush to hide ..........

I would say this is possible. We were the first car there, only a while later did another car come along behind us.
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You say the bird you saw in the tree was large , so this could also have frightened a jackal away (especially something like a martial eagle).

My SO was trying to identify the bird for quite a while before we noticed the fetus and then the dead mother, the car that came a little after us, thought it, the bird, was a juvenile something, and if we remember correctly, I think they said juvenile Martial Eagle, but can not be 100% sure on that one.

I do think Bucky that yours is the most likely explanation, and at the time we all, both cars there by then, that it had been hit by a car I must say. I would just love to know for sure.

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If the blood is very red , it suggests arterial blood , if it is slightly forthy or bubbly that shows it has come from a lung wound , which is why I asked that .

So from how you describe the blood , it certainly does sound like a puncture wound in the lungs , combined with a rupture of a main artery somewhere along the line , into the lungs .

The only way this could have happend is from being hit by a car , or getting shot , so im sure it was bumped by a car .
It really is so easy to hit an impala , even if driving slowly , im sure everyone has experienced how easily they dart in front of you on the road .


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Bucky difficult to really remember now the exact colour of the blood, but it was not very very dark, and it was red, but not red like the insides of the impala look in the pic, and also probably slightly watery, frothy maybe, yes, if I remember correctly.

On looking again at my pics of it, could the marks, grrazes on the impala's front legs/feet not be from being hit by a car?

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buckeroo, sorry I don't agree on a few things.

The foetus is covered in grime. flies et al. The marks you talking about could very well just be sand.

The Impala female was definitely ripped open at her stomach, she also didn't crawl and fall in that position. Animals of Impala's size fall onto their sides.

I think the predator might have been disturbed by Jazil's vehicle, but then again, a smell could have disturbed them as well.... Something like Lion doo doo that was driven through by Jazil.

But then again, we are all only guessing ;-)

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<...>could the marks, grrazes on the impala's front legs/feet not be from being hit by a car?

Or from being dragged over the tar? :?

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buckeroo, sorry I don't agree on a few things.

The foetus is covered in grime. flies et al. The marks you talking about could very well just be sand.

The Impala female was definitely ripped open at her stomach, she also didn't crawl and fall in that position. Animals of Impala's size fall onto their sides.

I think the predator might have been disturbed by Jazil's vehicle, but then again, a smell could have disturbed them as well.... Something like Lion doo doo that was driven through by Jazil.

But then again, we are all only guessing ;-)

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So what if the foetus is covered in sand , it was carried or dragged to that point .

I said the impala was opened at her stomach by a predator , I also said that its possible someone moved her out the road , although this is my second guess , as the animal would then have been put down upside down if 2 people carried it by the legs (the only way to carry it) - why is there no blood by the animal , and how do you explain the pool of blood in the road if it was a predator kill (They drink the blood first)

Why cant they lie down like that , its possible it walked off the road , then lay on its stomach as they do .
Also a predator could have rolled it over a little , if you look at the back legs and neck , you could say it was rolled .

I don't think you can handle the heat in botswana , or maybe its withdrawll symptoms from being so long without your braai tongs - look again boeta .


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:lol: Salva, you're being bad now!!

Another thought... as to the position of the foetus. I don't think it just fell out. I would say that whatever it was that started opening the impala's soft parts, found this juicy morsel and dragged it off to have for appetizer?

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