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This photo of a true dagga boy was taken on the S90 in March this year. The herd numbered about 200 and the herd was in a placid mood and completely surrounded my vehicle as they slowly crossed the road. The exact location on the S90 was about 2-3 km north of the Bangu Waterhole where the Hlahleni stream crosses the S90.
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 Post subject: Re: Buffalo info needed on sub-species
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The Buffalo in Addo is exactly the same as those in KNP and the rest of SA.

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 Post subject: Re: Buffalo info needed on sub-species
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Out of interest, on documentaries, you hear buffalo being referred to as "cape Buffalo" and "Water buffalo" - are these the same species, and different sub-species, or different species altogether ?
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 Post subject: Re: Buffalo info needed on sub-species
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As far as I know this is how it all works

Species 1:
Cape Buffalo/Plains Buffalo
The one we all see all over Africa, in semi-arid environments (including Kruger, Addo, Kenya, Botswana, Tanzania, Zimbabwe, etc., etc.,)

Species 2:
Forest Buffalo/Dwarf Buffalo
The one that is smaller (often seen in zoo's) and is found in forests in central Africa.

Species 3:
Water Buffalo/Asian Buffalo
Native to Asia this buffalo has become one of the asian peoples livestock (like cattle in Kenya...)

These are just the ones I know about, I might be wrong??
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 Post subject: Re: Buffalo info needed on sub-species
Unread postPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:51 pm 
Hello, and a warm welcome, suezetp!

Good questions!

All Africa's buffalo are of the same species, while the asiatic Water Buffalo is an entirely different one, domesticated or not!

The Addo buffalo are a little different, genetically, IMO in that they are the survivors of a long, small and isolated line of thicket-dwelling buff's that have developed an inclination to having small horns, and being smaller in stature, presumably due to the fact that the bigger-horned bulls were mercilessly hunted first from around the 1700's!

Maybe their habitat has also shrunk them a bit, due to feeding constraints?

Google would lead you to various definitions regarding subspecies...


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This morning I saw buffalo in Tanzania reffered to as Water Buffalo on National Geographic! :rtm:


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 Post subject: Re: Buffalo info needed on sub-species
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People calling any African Buffalo a water buffalo are ignorant, that at times include comments made on TV channels such as National Geographic.
Addo Buffalo have undergone a genetic reduction due to the fact that they were isolated and numbers were hunted to really low levels, but they are not in anyway seen as a sub species.
They do not qualify for such a distinction.

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 Post subject: Re: Buffalo info needed on sub-species
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And where do the buffalo they have in europe(mainly italy) to make buffalo mozzeralla fall into the mix ?

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 Post subject: Re: Buffalo info needed on sub-species
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Hi

In my research I have now read a lot about the (mainly African) buffalo.

For interest's sake:

Buffalo mozzarella cheese is made from the milk of water or river buffalo.
It is mainly produced in Italy, but there are producers in South Africa (Cape).
The buffalo used in South Africa were actually imported from Australia.

Thanks for all the info on the sub-species of the African buffalo. It helped me a lot!

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Seen on the S36 in December

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Someone in the know tells me this herd which frequents Mopani area is currently known one in KNP - about 800 strong . I saw them passing above Shipandane hide early on Sunday morning - though they were on the move and not feeding it still took at least 20 minutes for the heard to pass - and only a small number came down to drink .

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I wonder if this bull has the widest set of horns in KNP today. this photo was taken on the H6 during my Nov trip. I have seen this bull on an earlier trip on the S36.

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These horns are amazing. Great photo of him. The DUKE under the Buffalo,s. :wink:


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Thanks Nico, He did not appear to be a large or heavy bull but he certainly had the widest horns I have seen on any buffalo.

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