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Hi Patto,

First, the WD in your avatar looks like he's brining in the morning newspaper :lol:

To answer your question, probably the most interesting sighting I've had of WD was just south of the bridge crossing the Olifants river. There's a sand road which crosses the tar there, and on the east side is a drainage pipe beneath the sand. For a number of years now this has been used by hyeana as a den. In 2000 when we got to this spot there were hyeana cubs left with two adult babysitters, and a whole pack of WD trying to take out the cubs. The two babysitters fought hard and eventually the WD's took off without managing any kills. It was fascinating to watch!

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My best sightings have been at:-
- tar road close to Berg-en-dal
- S28 close to Crocodile bridge
- H4-2 close to Gomondwane ( 2X, 1 with kill )
- H1-1 close to transport dam
- H1-2 close to Orpen memorial rock
- S32 close to Tshokwane
- H7 close to Orpen
- H1-5 just north of Olifants bridge on kill, then they ran to Shirimantanga @ a pace where the pups greeted them and were fed.
- H1-8 between Baobab hill and Pafuri
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Wild dogs.... the ebst sighting my wife and i had was on honeymoon in Oct 98. we had left Lower Sabie at the crack of sparrow f... and were heading north. as we rounded a bend there was a pack of 15 or so wild dogs trotting down the road towards us. periodically a dog or two would swing around and chase something. as they got closer we could see 3-4 hyaenas that were following the pack. the dogs streamed past us, and carried on. however the hyaenas stopped near us. you could see that they had taken a hammering by the dogs. each of them had been bitten a few times, and were bleeding. they kind of just laid down and you could see that they had seriously lost interest in following the dogs. i dont blame them... in comparison to the agility of the dogs, the hyaenas were lumbering, claw dragging oafs!
Afterwards my wife and i just sat in the bakkie with silly smiles on our faces with "aah that was nice" sighs.
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Been to the KNP a good few times over the past 12 years and only ever seen wild dog once. Last year, a pack resting in shade on the side of the road along the H1-1, a kilo south of the intersection outside Skukuza. At the time there was some film crew or other filming them. It did not bother us at all that they were there. I felt sorry for them (film crew) though as other cars came along and edged in and chased the dogs off :evil:
I had always wanted to see wild dog so it was a very special sighting.


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General
Head and body length 76 to 112cm. Tail length 30 to 41cm.
Weight 17 to 36kg (mean of 25kg).
Average life expectancy about 11 years.

Habitat and Ecology
Wild dogs are generalist predators, occupying a range of habitats including short-grass plains, semi-desert, bushy savannahs and upland forest. While early studies in the Serengeti National Park, Tanzania, led to a belief that wild dogs were primarily an open plains species, more recent data indicate that they reach their highest densities in thicker bush (e.g., Selous Game Reserve, Tanzania; Mana Pools National Park, Zimbabwe; and northern Botswana). Several relict populations occupy dense upland forest (e.g., Harenna Forest, Ethiopia: Malcolm and Sillero-Zubiri 2001; Ngare Ndare Forest, Kenya). Wild dogs have been recorded in desert (Lhotse 1946), although they appear unable to establish themselves in the southern Kalahari (M.G.L. Mills, unpubl.), and montane habitats (Thesiger 1970, Malcolm and Sillero-Zubiri 2001), although not in lowland forest. It appears that their current distribution is limited primarily by human activities and the availability of prey, rather than by the loss of a specific habitat type.

Diet
Wild dogs mostly hunt medium-sized antelope. Whereas they weigh 20-30 kg, their prey average around 50 kg, and may be as large as 200 kg. In most areas their principal prey are impala (Aepyceros melampus), kudu (Tragelaphus strepsiceros), Thomson’s gazelle (Gazella thomsonii) and wildebeest (Connochaetes taurinus). They will give chase of larger species, such as eland (Tragelaphus oryx) and buffalo (Syncerus caffer), but rarely kill such prey. Small antelope, such as dik-dik (Madoqua spp.), steenbok (Raphicerus campestris) and duiker (tribe Cephalophini) are important in some areas, and warthogs (Phacochoerus spp.) are also taken in some populations. Wild dogs also take very small prey such as hares, lizards and even eggs, but these make a very small contribution to their diet.

Threats
The principal threats to wild dogs are conflict with human activities and infectious disease. Both of these are mediated by habitat fragmentation, which increases contact between wild dogs, people and domestic dogs. The important role played by human-induced mortality has two long-term implications. First, it makes it likely that, outside protected areas, wild dogs may well be unable to co-exist with the increasing human population unless better protection and local education programmes are implemented. This will be a serious problem for wild dog populations outside protected areas. Second, wild dog ranging behaviour leads to a very substantial "edge effect", even in large reserves. Simple geometry dictates that a reserve of 5,000 km² contains no point more than 40 km from its borders - a distance well within the range of distances travelled by a pack of wild dogs in their usual ranging behaviour. Thus, from a wild dog’s perspective, a reserve of this size (fairly large by most standards) would be all edge. As human populations rise around reserve borders, the risks to wild dogs venturing outside are also likely to increase. Under these conditions, only the very largest unfenced reserves will be able to provide any level of protection for wild dogs. In South Africa, proper fencing around quite small reserves has proved effective in keeping dogs confined to the reserve (although fencing has costs, as well as benefits, in conservation terms).
Even in large, well-protected reserves, or in stable populations remaining largely independent of protected areas (as in northern Botswana), wild dogs live at low population densities. Predation by lions, and perhaps competition with hyaenas, contribute to keeping wild dog numbers below the level that their prey base could support. Such low population density brings its own problems. The largest areas contain only relatively small wild dog populations; for example, the Selous Game Reserve, with an area of 43,000 km² (about the size of Switzerland), contains about 800 wild dogs. Most reserves, and probably most wild dog populations, are smaller. For example, the wild dog population in Niokolo-Koba National Park and buffer zones (about 25,000 km², larger than the state of Israel) is likely to be not more than 50-100 dogs. Such small populations are vulnerable to extinction. "Catastrophic" events such as outbreaks of epidemic disease may drive them to extinction when larger populations have a greater probability of recovery - such an event seems to have led to the extinction of the small wild dog population in the Serengeti ecosystem on the Kenya-Tanzania border. Problems of small population size will be exacerbated if, as seems likely, small populations occur in small reserves or habitat patches. As discussed above, animals inhabiting such areas suffer a strong "edge effect". Thus, small populations might be expected to suffer disproportionately high mortality as a result of their contact with humans and human activity.

Occurrence in captivity
There are more than 300 wild dogs in captivity in 55 zoos, as listed on ISIS and as many as 200 additional animals occur in zoos and private collections, particularly in South Africa.
Early attempts to reintroduce captive-bred animals to the wild were hampered by the dogs’ poor hunting skills and naive attitudes to larger predators. However, recent reintroductions have overcome this problem by mixing captive-bred dogs with wild-caught animals and releasing them together. This approach has been very valuable in re-establishing packs in several fenced reserves in South Africa, but is not considered a priority in other parts of Africa at present. Nevertheless, captive populations have important roles to play in developing conservation strategies for wild populations, through research (e.g., testing of vaccination protocols), outreach and education.

Occurrence in the wild
Wild dogs have disappeared from much of their former range. The species is virtually eradicated from West Africa, and greatly reduced in central Africa and north-east Africa. The largest populations remain in southern Africa and the southern part of East Africa. Population densities in well-studied areas suggest that between 3,000-5,500 free-ranging wild dogs remain in Africa (< 2,500 of these are mature individuals). Population size is continuing to decline as a result of ongoing conflict with human activities, infectious disease, habitat fragmentation.

History
1986 - Vulnerable (IUCN Conservation Monitoring Centre 1986)
1988 - Vulnerable (IUCN Conservation Monitoring Centre 1988)
1990 - Endangered (IUCN 1990)
1994 - Endangered (Groombridge 1994)
1996 - Endangered (Baillie and Groombridge 1996)

Sources: Redlist.org and unep-wcmc.org

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About ten years ago we were travelling on the main road from Shingwedzi towards Punda, when we saw an impala ewe running onto the road about 400 metres from us. The next moment two wild dogs grabbed it and I put the accelerator down, but in the time it took us to get to the spot, more dogs had joined in and were pulling it apart. As we got there, she was already dead and about twelve dogs were tearing bits off the carcass. We watched in awe and in no time all that was left, was some blood in the road. By the time the first car arrived only a few dogs were still eating, the others were resting in the shade.


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I must say that a kill is not a nice thing to look at but I get a lot of respect for the animals by this interesting experience. I had two weeks ago a leopard killing a warthog on three meters away. The scream of the whorthog goose through your bones but the respect for the leopard and the warthog in that situation was big.I don't come to KNP to experience the kills but its all in the game when you have such a confrontation. I don't close my eyes for it. Once I had a morning drive near Olifants and we saw a mother giraffe with a verry young tiny giraffe with navel-string still on. Than there came a group of hyaena's and a young man in the bag of the truck start to pray and asked God for a kill. He hoped that the hyaena's would kill the young giraffe. I asked him if he already had changed his diaper and gave him a dirty look. :evil: Happely for the young giraffe, the hyaena's had already their meal and disappeared.

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As humans we see a lot of things in nature as grusome and not nice to look at. My wife dont even want to look at it on TV. I think as nature lovers we respect the ways of the wild and by doing so we realise that a kill is only a way to survive in the jungle out there. As this is such a rare sighting during day time hours I am sure that all of us would like to see an actual kill even if it is only once in our lives. All the precious time spent in the KNP seems like an incomplete circle without the actual sighting of a kill.

I dont pray for it but I would like to see as many as I can.

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On my recent trip to Kruger ( August ), I had the absolute priviledge of seeing a Wild Dog Kill taking place literally 50m from Berg-en-dal gate. It was a pack of 4 ( very small pack is it not ??? ) 3 adults and 1 sub-adult. They took down a female Impala 3 metres from the roadside and we watched in awe as they ripped it to pieces and nervously ate, continuously looking out for danger. The spectacle lasted some 10 minutes, untill some 30+ vultures chased the Wild Dogs off the Kill. This is my most memorable sighting of a kill in the Kruger and it could be something that I will never witness again - Wild Dog sightings are rare enough as it is. Anyone else had good "kill" sightings recently ???

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Also seen Wild Dogs kill 2 little Warthog piglets in 1999 at
Renosterkoppies dam. Also a 10 minute ripping and eating & adults running with pieces of meat to their den.

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Quite a number of years back just after Tamboti opened we saw wilddogs running on the other side of the river (from our deck).
:shock: next moment they chased an impala into the fence of the camp and starting to rip it apart from behind!
Impala made the weirdest sounds... looking at us with with those big eyes... it really looked as if she was pleading for help knowing we were a stone's through away (i mean really 1m+ from her). There we all stood while this horrible (but also astounding) event was taking place.
Would remember every detail of that for the rest of my life.

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At the moment, there is only one viable WD population in Saffa - Kruger.
The reason being is the space lacking of the other parks and reserves to hold a significant number of Wild Dogs (at least 100).
So scientists and conservationists devised a plan using a metapopulation, meaning that all Wild DOgs in reserves larger than 30 000 ha are managed as one population, so regulary are transported and swapped to other reseves to keep a healthy gene pool.
It's a great initiative taken by SANParks, provicial parks and wildlife trusts.
So far the reserves of the metapopulation are:
Marakele National Park (Greater Area)
Hluhluwe-Imfolozi Reserve
Pilanesberg Park
Madikwe Park
Mkuze Reserve
Venetia Limpopo Reserve (on border with Mapungubwe)
Tswalu Kalahari Reserve

I fiond it strange that Kgalagadi is not on the list. Why is this so?

Does anyone have more info on this? Like additional reserves to be added, expansion of reserves, news of packs, number of packs etc???

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I am not sure if wild dogs occour naturally in areas like kgalagadi ? isnt it to dry for them (am open to correction here , really dont know).
Also they tend to hunt and live in areas that are quite bushy ,
kgalagadi is very very open .

Have seen them mostly along the tar roads between skukuza and afsaal/pretoriuskop/phabeni .
Was seeing them quite often (about 8 sightings) in the late 90's , but havent seen any lately in kruger , last was near orpen in 2001 , my only sighting north of the sabie river .

Richard , you are either confussing them with jackal/hyenae or are dam lucky :D


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bucky wrote:
I am not sure if wild dogs occour naturally in areas like kgalagadi ? isnt it to dry for them (am open to correction here , really dont know).
Also they tend to hunt and live in areas that are quite bushy ,
kgalagadi is very very open .


I contacted the Manager of Kgalagadi. He informed me that there are only a few sporadic occurances of Wilddog in the park.

He is of opinion that the ecology in Kgalagadi is such, that it is not ideal for Wilddog and thus the dogs do not thrive there.

For you guys that are able to read Afrikaans, here is his reply:


" Geen wildehonde in die Suid Afrikaanse kant van die oorgrenspark nie, maar sporadies kry ons gerugte van honde wat by Van Zyls Rus se area vanaf Botswana deurkom na die Suid Afrikaanse kant – slegs 2 gevalle in die laaste twee en ‘n half jaar en dan wissel dit van 5 tot so 7 wildehonde. ‘n Reen en teef is op een so ‘n geval gevang en suksesvol in Tswalu vrygelaat.

Aan die Botswana kant van die oorgrenspark is daar ook net sporadiese gevalle waar hulle in die Swartpan area (Noord oos) opgemerk word. Uiters 1 of 2 keer per jaar.

Ons het baie min inligting beskikbaar omdat die diere so skaars is hier en so ‘n groot gebied het on in te beweeg. Vir meer korrekte inligting kan jy vir Gus Mills kontak.

Ek dink die paar wat wel hier voorkom moes verseker aanpassings maak veral gesien in die lig van die gesonde roofdier lewe in die Kalahari en kompetisie vir oorlewing is kwaai en omstandighede van die uiterste (my persoonlike mening) "

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