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Hi all,

Afer some enquiries I can give you some information on Cheetah Numbers.

Current estimates based on sightings, ranger reports, scientific evidence (ie habitat area vs total area of Protected Area etc) puts the number at over 200 at this stage.

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Does it mean that their number is decreasing?
Is this number enough for the species to survive?
Is there some re-introduction in progress lately?


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Hi Pikasso,

The numbers are pretty much the same as the previous survey, thou a little bit less.

The number you see here is sufficient for the species to survive and as such do not think there is anything to worry about.

The Parks will have these kind of policies in hand. I can promise you that if there is a concern about the numbers, that we will definetly know about it.

At this stage all seems to be okay ...

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As far as I know the number always was 200.....and because of its specific habitat, (eg plains etc) and numbers of lions and hyena's I don't think there's a chance the number will increase.
RE-INTRODUCTION cannot be done, as they already are there :P
I personally think that with the current, excellent park management (except for the elephant culling issue) they stand a good chance for surviving the future!
However, increasing elephant numbers are devastating for Kruger and its diversity.....and maybe this could in the long run affect even our adorable cheetahs.....

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Do I understand correctly: 200 is the max number of cheetahs KNP can have with today's parameters (elephants etc...)???
Why is that?

I think it is easier to see wild dogs (could see them already, but not one single cheetah). Their number is increasing?
I like to see them, as they seem to be often playing :dance: !


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Hi Pikasso,
I'm not saying that 200 is necessarily is the max of cheetahs Kruger can take....
but because the number of 200 prevails for many many years now, it would be a indication towards it.
Believe me, (generally speaking) wild dogs are more difficult to see, although there are 350 of them, the are in packs of 13 or so.....that reduces the places to see them quite severely.

Cheetahs generally are 'day hunters', so I would say you are more likely to see them.
Well, that's my experience, I have seen cheetah maybe 5 times and wilddog once.
Try the area between Afsaal and Skukuza, the H 4-2 from Crocodile Bridge to LS, the H10 and s28 (LS area) and the H7 towards Orpen, generally great chances of seeing cheetah there...

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No .. 200 is not the max number of cheetahs. The Park can carry more.

Let me try to explain this a bit better.
There was no formal survey prior to 2004/2005 done by SANParks.
In the interim there are plenty other research being done by institutions such as UCT (University of Cape Town) etc.
All the research that is being done is shared with all the stake holders and as such SANParks are provided with the research findings as such.
Because there is no accurate way to measure many species it is difficult to give the exact number of cheetahs.
So they have to rely on measuring trends and currently they are working at finding more accurate ways to measure the numbers.

The cheetah in the predator food chain will always have a low number because of the dominance of Lions and Leopards over cheetah, which is the case with most small predators.
There is a lot of cheetah funding for research for companies and at this point the Cheetah's population is considered to be healthy.

The estimated numbers are obtained from sightings, ranger reports, scientific evidence etc.
As there is not perfect way to count them.

SANParks also only re-introduce species if it is a desperate situation, i.e. like the rhino that was re-introduced.
They did appear in the areas before and because there were none they re-introduced them.
Remember, when re-introducing an animal, man is interfering with nature again.

The cheetah population is considered to be healthy within the Park and because of all the research that is being done, based on the findings from the people who do the research, they feel confident that the numbers are healthy and do not foresee any threat to the cheetah species "in the Parks".

As for the Wild dogs, it could be and then also it could also not be easier to spot them.
Purely because you may only find 3 cheetahs together whereas Wild Dogs run in packs of 8 or more at times.

And yes, it does seem that there are more Wild dogs then Cheetah in the Park.

SANParks has a very good grip and understanding of both these species thanks to all the research that is happening on both of them.

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:shock: Wild@heart, thanks a lot for taking the time to give such a comprehensive explanation :clap: !

I think I will have more questions to come, then :lol: ...


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 Post subject: Re: Cheetah sighitings in Kruger National Park
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Last Thursday, 30th, 8 cheetah on the S28 early morning :D
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We also hadn't seen cheetah for a few years but also spotted this one the day before on the H1-3, it was about 150m away and we couldn't decide whether it had a kill or not.
No other vehicles came along in the half hour we spent watching it.
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The S28 is defiantely cheetah road.......Saw the 3 Males up there a few times, Also saw one on the S25, right by the main tar road up to Lower Sabie H4-2 i think?? and one at Kwaggaspan on an Impala Kill when I was up there last! :D Great trip with many cheetah, lion, and leopard sightings! :D Aswel as Honey Badger and Serval! :dance:

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We were so lucky to see cheetahs twice in May. On the H4-2 just 5 km from Lower Sabie we saw these to guys in the road.

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The next day we saw 2 cheetahs on the S39 about 10km from Timbavati


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we visited kruger for the first time in august ans were so lucky with our big cat sightings. on our first day we had leopard, 2 cheetah and lion sightings and the luck continued every day we had amazing big cat sightings but my favourite sighting has to be the watching a cheetah take down an impala and eating as much of it as possible before the vultures overwhelmed him.
heres a sneak peek... check out my trip report for loads more pictures...

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 Post subject: Re: Cheetah sightings in Kruger National Park
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Thanks Roaneric :)

These were the pics i was talking about


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I was ecstatic while watching all this live for an hour, 2 hunts


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Hi, I am very fortunate to have witnessed this!

Near Tsokwane - July 2008

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