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 Post subject: Re: Old photos of Kruger
Unread postPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 7:29 am 
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Dear Saraf,

It lies between the Papenfus Clock Tower and the Goldfields Auditorium (which lies behind Stevenson-Hamilton Memorial Library). It lies left of the footpath (which until recently used to be main road) down from Reception to Shop Complex. It's still has much of it's old design.

Thanks for interest!

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 Post subject: Re: Old photos of Kruger
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Dear Moderater. I have the book "60 Years - Kruger Park" which was published by the National Parks Board of Trustees in 1958. I believe this is quite a rare book. There are some lovely old photos of Kruger Park of which I think 7 would be of interest to this thread. I would like to post these pictures onto this thread but I am not sure if that would be a breach of copyright. How do you feel about it?

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 Post subject: Re: Old photos of Kruger
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I don't think that it will be a problem. Just mention the author, publisher and other detail. After all you will be posting the photos on their own website and, you are not making money out of it. I would love to see the photos.

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 Post subject: Re: Old photos of Kruger
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:thumbs_up: :thumbs_up: As long as you quote the relevant acknowledgements for the source and authors, it should be perfectly okay to post pics. Unless there is a specific clause in the book to the contrary, which seldom is the case.

Looking very forward to these delightful old pics ... :dance: :dance:

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 Post subject: Re: Old photos of Kruger
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Okey dokey here goes. I just cannot resist attaching these photos as for us "ou toppies" like myself they are an absolute treasure to behold. I can so remember these days as a 6 year old being totally fascinated by the camps, the guard with his spear at the gates, the fires burning from which you would go and fetch coal to cook your meal, the cars - sans airconditioning - that could fit a whole family of 5 in with ease and great comfort and so I could go on. My only hope is that the younger generation also enjoy looking back at they the way our beloved Kruger Park was.

These photos are from a book entitled " 60 years Kruger Park" and published by The National Park Board of Trustees of the Union of South Africa, Pretoria in 1958. The book was compiled by R L Labuschagne Liason Officer of the National Parks Board. The photographs are by W F Schack Photographer of the National Parks Board.

NUMBI GATE - ONE OF SIX ENTRANCES INTO THE PARK.
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scan0049 (Medium) by Richard Gillatt, on Flickr

THE PONTOON ACROSS THE OLIFANTS RIVER.

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VISITORS VIEWING THE ELEPHANTS AT THE LETABA REST CAMP.
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THIS PICTURE HAS NO CAPTION BUT I THINK IT IS SKUKUZA RESTAURANT.
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PRETORIUSKOP REST CAMP
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PAFURI PICNIC SPOT
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 Post subject: Re: Old photos of Kruger
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The photo of the ellie at Letaba brings back wonderful memories. I know exactly where that photo was taken. I remember those palm trees very well.
Did we really think the flimsy fence will protect us from a charging ellie. :huh:

Most of you (not you young ones :whistle: ) will remember the entrance to Letaba Camp when it was still a dirt road - the dip before the gate, the resident ellie used to hang around there chasing after VW Beetles, possibly the same one on the photo..

Thank you for posting steamtrainfan!
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 Post subject: Re: Old photos of Kruger
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Thanks for all the postings Forumites! A great thread and brings back the memories. I remember the old beds and matresses; the enamel wash basin and jug and the enamel chamber pot :whistle: Don't forget the loooong drops :lol: Something to share - my great grandfather was the ranger at Punda Maria in the 1920's. When the first grandchild was born, my grandparents sent a telegram to inform him of his grandson's birth and the telegram was delivered by a messenger on horse back. Obviously a safe journey as the telegram reached its destination. To my knowledge we don't have any photo's :wall: My other grandfather was part of the team that built the railroad line in Kruger and when I visit Skukuza and see the old railroad bridge, it brings back memories as well :D


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 Post subject: Re: Old photos of Kruger
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Orpen day visitors area 1985 with the camp managers house , obscured is the gate guard hut where the not often used gravel road from Klaserie through the southern side of Timbavati private reserve entered the park .
The road was bad , there were a number of gates with check points , so the road was seldom used and Orpen was a sleepy gem ....

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Orpen 1985 - the last hut to the right was more or less the far end of the camp , in the days before electricity was laid on . What bliss ....

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 Post subject: Re: Old photos of Kruger
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Notice the wood fire at the day visitors section ?

That disappeared soon after 1985 , in fact when I was there for 10 days in August 1985 the road builders with their bulldozers could be heard approaching ...

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 Post subject: Re: Old photos of Kruger
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I distinctly remember a three-bedded chalet in Pretoriuskop going for R29 per night. :shock: Does my memory fail me, or was that indeed the prices around then?

Anyone remember?

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 Post subject: Re: Old photos of Kruger
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Cant read the above so I will type it
What it costs
Entrance fees
Adults .....................................R1
Children(aged 1to 16) ... 25c
Cars.........................................R1 plus 50c a day
Caravans .................................50c plus 50 c an day
Sleeping vans............................R1 plus R1 a day
Luggage trailers..........................25c
Minimum entrance fee...............R3

Restuarant meals

Breakfast .....50c
Lunch....60c
Dinner ......70c

Accommodation
Balule ( nonwhites only) adult 95c child 75c
Crocodile Bridge ,Malelane,Punda milia,,R1adult and 80c for a child
Orpen R1.30 aand
Letaba,olifants, Pretoriuskop,lowerSabie and Skukuza R1.30 for an Adult and 85c for a child
Petrol
Premium petrol costs 37 c to 39 c a GALLON
regular 33and a half to 35 c

Camping 20c per night per person

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 Post subject: Re: Old photos of Kruger
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The salaries of Game Rangers in the mid 60s were starting R150.00 per month and upon retiring in the early 1990s the salary was R4400.00 per month.

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 Post subject: Re: Old photos of Kruger
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I recall our August 1967 visit to Kruger Park:

Travelling from Vereeniging to Skukuza where we spent two nights in two rondawels, then to Olifants for a further two nights, dinner at the Olifants restaurant where we were fascinated by the enlargements of Dick Wolfe's elephants and Clem Haagner's I think nine Lion cubs which adorned the entrance foyer. and one evening at the Graskop Hotel and back home, cost less than R85.00.

The bill was made up as follows:

R 3.60 - 35 mm slide film
R 20.01 - 34 - Fuel for 1073 miles - 1717 km.
R 3.70 - Entrance fee Numbi Gate.
R 0.25 - Map at Numbi Gate.map.
R 2.00 - 20 glasses of Golden Flo at the restaurant verandah @R0.10 per glass.
R 11.70 - Accommodation SKUKUZA.
R 11.70 - Accomodation OLIFANTS.
R 1.30 - Kupferberger Auslese - Restaurant.
R 7.20 - Dinner Olifants Restaurant .
R 2.90 - Memories of a Game Ranger Skukuza shop.
R .75 - Brass dinner bell for mom.
R 18.00 - Graskop Hotel

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 Post subject: Re: Old photos of Kruger
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I found these prices in a 1949 booklet.
(R2 =1pound for the young mites!!!
20 shillings to a pound 12 pennies to a shilling)
They mention how many beds in the various camps
I think of forum interest there are the following
Gorge 23 beds
Malopene 15 beds
Rabeleis 20 beds

Admission to KNP
10/- and 2/6 for children 16 and under
Minimum 1 pound

Accommodation
huts are 5/- and 3/-
innerspring mattress 6/-
camping 2/- and 1/- for cjhildren
Nwanetsi the whole camp sleeping 8 is 4 pounds

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 Post subject: Re: Old photos of Kruger
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GML, that is mind-boggling. :huh: What is interesting is that the fuel costs and four-night accommodation costs are about the same: these days, accommodation is much more, despite a rising fuel price. Also, dinner then was relatively expensive. (Or, fuel and accommodation were relatively low.)
From these, I gather that it has been the accommodation costs that have risen beyond all recognition - although, compared to many other destinations in Southern Africa, Kruger is still reasonable these days. :hmz:

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